Thinking I will try a continuous ridge line, over the top of the tarp.
Does this look like it would work?
1.75mm zing it or lash it, 25'
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Thinking I will try a continuous ridge line, over the top of the tarp.
Does this look like it would work?
1.75mm zing it or lash it, 25'
https://apis.mail.yahoo.com/ws/v3/ma...ils=true&pid=2
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Hi from Durham! I use 25ft of zing it with Prusiks made with LashIt to attach tarp. I like the ZingIt, but my prusiks don’t always hold and will slip. I switched to using a Klemheist friction knot, and those seem to hold better. Others love Nama Claws.
I especially like having a continuous ridge line when the weather is nice and I can stow my tarp in sleeves, enjoy the open sky, and be ready for quick deployment if rain moves in.
Thanks.
I'll check out that Klemheist friction knot.
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Just curious if the use of the continuous ridge line is for ease of positioning the tarp or just fun to say?🥸
I started off years ago with one, but got tired of my prusiks getting stuck after over tightening my tarp. I once ripped off a thumb nail and come to think of it , I don’t recall the couple a few hundred yards away being to impressed with my sailor language.
I now use a 15’ piece of line on each end of the tarp fed through one of those toggle things (see below, I think they are line locks) and the other end of line has some sort of clip. So far I have had no trouble with this setup.
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Same here on the lash-it. I do another wrap if the pussiks slip and I use a pull loop to help move them when needed.
this is what I do for prussiks as well when I use them. if they slip I just asd another wrap. I haven't used the crl since I switched the straps and Beatle buckles when I got my chameleon. I just figured heck of it I've already got the straps for the chameleon I may as well get them for my tarp too. This way if one breaks I can always take one off the tarp.
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friction hitches dyneema on dyneema should be avoided if at all possible (they work badly). prusik should be avoided in most cases, there's many other friction hitches which work better. the combination of dyneema, prusik, and excessive amounts of wraps to "make it work", along with over tensioned ridgeline or high winds result in the terrible experiences above.
there's nothing wrong with the setup if you do it properly: if you must use dyneema for the ridgeline, at least use some normal cord for the friction hitches. firction hitches can be blake hitch or farrimond or (if you want to go rolls royce) valdotain tressee, but not prusik.
I agree that the Prusik is not the best knot for all materials, definitely not for zing-it/lash-it in my experience. I've also experimented with Klemheist and Hedden, and they also presented the same issue that Prusik does; if you introduce enough wraps to make it hold, it subsequently jams pretty hard under load.
However, I've used Prusik with some non-Dyneema cords and find it works extremely well with Lawson Glowire and Guywire, and I recently tested it with Ironwire and it works extremely well. It also works well with Atwood Tactical Cord and Micro Cord (although tiny, and poor handling and tangling), and with Kelty Triptease. But IMHO the Lawson products have the best 'Goldilocks' set of attributes for the job.
Nanok is exactly correct that if you use Zing-it for the CRL that it is far better to use some other non-Dyneema cord for the actual Prusik.
Lawson Ironwire with Prusik:
First time pitched 'for real' ..... Success — didn't budge a micron all night!
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Thanks for the input all.
I have been using the Tarp Flyz shown in my first post for a long time with a line coming off each end of the tarp and the Tarp Flyz fixed on the cord close to the tarp.
I take the line around the tree and back to the Tarp Flyz.
It works great. I just have been using that same, two part ridge line for a lot of years and decided to replace it with a new line.
Just thought I might experiment with a over the top continuous ridge line but I don't know if it will be any better than what I have been using.
So many options leave me undecided at this point.
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Jeff Meyers and Autumn Ultralight both make variations of a hooked/shackled fixed end and toggled free end with rock-solid nama claws for the tarp. Perfection.
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