Between two trees
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Seriously though I've tried it all and have settled on a Continuous Ridge Line (CRL) .
https://dutchwaregear.com/product/co...type-and-color
Between two trees
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Seriously though I've tried it all and have settled on a Continuous Ridge Line (CRL) .
https://dutchwaregear.com/product/co...type-and-color
I want to thank everyone for giving me idea's. That is why I enjoy this group. I am going to give them all a try starting with some Stingerz. Which I have been in contact with Dutch.
Keep on hanging.
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I picked this idea up from the tarp for the REI Bridge hammock (which was nice but too small so I rarely use it) and now use it for my custom DIY ultra-light and huge tarp.
I have a split ridgeline. Each ridgeline is attached to the tarp using Lineloc3's that are attached to the tarp. The other end of the line has a hook that I believe Dutch used to sell but I don't recall seeing it in quite some time. You could use something else to achieve the same effect. I wish Dutch would bring these back because I'd love to get some more.
To hang the tarp. I throw the free end with the hook around the tree and use the hook to capture the line. Now that the tarp is attached at one end, I go to the other tree and perform the same thing with the other ridgeline. If I'm lucky, the tarp is centered over my hammock and I just use the lineloc to tighten the ridgeline. If it needs adjustment, I just look and see how far off I am and loosen one of the lineloc's by that amount and then tighten up the other one.
Normally at this point I'm done with the ridgeline and then the rest is just staking out the sides. The lineloc's almost never slip but if I'm worried because I'm really tightening it like a guitar string, I just use the extra line to lock it in place.
I like this system because I don't have to worry about forgetting my ridgelines. If I want to replace them with longer/shorter lines it's easy to pull the line out of the lineloc and feed new lines in. The most complicated part of the process is throwing the clip around the tree and catching it with my other hand. Clipping it in takes about half a second. Adjustment is easy and intuitive.
And because I found it a neat idea from REI, I sewed a bit of hook-and-loop to the tarp at the lineloc so when I unclip the tarp I gather up the ridgeline and secure it with the hook-and-loop. It's not really necessary and does take a minute longer to pack up but it keeps the line nicely organized and easy to deploy next time.
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Scrope, I believe your making reference to “whoopie hooks”. On Dutch’s web site go to “hammocks”, then under “hardware”, you will see “whoopie hooks”
https://dutchwaregear.com/product/whoopie-hooks/
Livin’ Large ~ Horizontally
I’m experimenting with the goal of having a quick deploy system (we have another thread on this), and some sort of CRL setup since I prefer to use a snakeskin and a ridgeline under my tarp. Regardless, I’ve experimented with Amsteel, Zing-It, Lash-It, and regular nylon solid core line.
Does anyone make something like the wasp for line that’s thicker, like 7/64 Amsteel? All of these lines have pros and cons, and I prefer the thickness of my Amsteel but can’t figure out a Dutch wasp alternative that’ll fit the diameter needed.
1.75 Lash-It is fine, for example, just prefer the thicker lines. Anyway, I’m in major experimenting mode on setups in the quest for the holy grail!
Waiting on my latest Dutch bling to arrive and experiment some more with some Lash-It splicing to make a new CR.
Also I’ve confirmed Lash-It holds WAY better since it’s a smaller diameter on 7/64 Amsteel. Smaller diameters do make a difference even with both being coated. 7/64 on 7/64 slips all over the place by comparison. I feel I’m getting closer here.
Last edited by stebesplace; 05-31-2020 at 01:52.
Livin’ Large ~ Horizontally
A long history exists on this forum and the internet of addressing the best way to hang a tarp. In many ways it is a question of Pepsi vs Coke; with Dr Pepper often presiding.
My first set up was the Dutch premade Zing-it, Wasp, Dutch hook, & prusiks with soft shackle. Worked well; light weight & easy setup. On one hike, one of the soft shackles showed signs of deterioration, and my inability to fix it in the field was troubling, plus every now and then the prusiks would become fussy. If doing this system again, I would use 2mm line over Zing-it to accommodate the prusiks.
A year later, Tato connections replaced soft shackles. Didn't like that system at all, so I went to spit ridgelines using Dutch hooks & FlyZ. Easy, easy, easy . . . this has been my go to system since, but all good things must come to an end.
It was pointed out that waivering trees could place undue stress on the "not-cheap" dyneema tarp. A CRL would absorb the pull from the trees and theoretically protect the tarp from a falling branch. What is the probability of this happening? That is probably the $10,000 question.
My new system will consist of a Dutch hook, Wasp, and Nama Claws. It is about 3/4 ounce heavier than my split ridgeline but could be safer with faster set up. Like most hammock things, won't know until it is taken out in the field.
Maybe this is why I like hiking and hammocking; we are always searching for the "next best thing".
Recalc, If you are in the hammock when that tree branch (or load of snow from a healthy branch in the winter) falls, that single line will protect more than your tarp. I’ll be trying the setup too. I wish there were Nama Claws for thicker than 1.75 line.
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