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    Senior Member Pennsy Camp and Canoe's Avatar
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    Are whoopies out of fashion?

    Hey all,

    Looking to replace my 6 year old poly straps and thought about whoopies. Whoopie slings were all the rage when I bought my hammock (I only have one). Now I barely see them out in the woods.

    Have straps become the more popular option? What are your opinions on whoopies vs straps? I'm not a gram weenie but I'll always save weight when I can (if I can afford to spend the money).

    So I guess I'm wondering, which is better on weight, cost, ease of usage, etc.

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    I end up switching back and forth between whoopies and a beetle buckle setup from Dutch. I just cant make up my mind.

    What I usually go with is whoopies and a marlin spike setup in 3 season conditions and beetle buckles for winter. I find that I can adjust the buckles a bit easier with my gloves on in winter. Otherwise I usually prefer the less bulky whoopies even if they dont weigh all that much less.

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    Both are quick, light, and easy nowadays.

    I went as light as I could go to test limits. Eventually I moved back up in weight - settled on HG or Dutch's dyneema daisy chain webbing plus Mantis. Quick and light & adjustable enough. No knots when my hands are frozen stiff.

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    My 15' dyneema straps weigh less than my kevlar huggers and whoopies, but not enough to even think about. I mostly go straps and becket hitch because they pack up smaller, but sometimes I'm in a whoopie mood. Out west with huge pines, I bring both, because I might need them.

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    I jumped on the bandwagon long ago and made a bunch-o-whoopies but found they 1) required more space between trees. 2) were fussy when it came to milking and releasing the bury - especially in cold rainy weather. They adjust really well when not loaded. But usually, after the initial hanging of the hammock, I have to adjust things a bit. I do that with the hammock still attached to the suspension. In that situation, under load, I've found webbing or daisy chain easier to adjust.
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    Personally I don't use whoopie slings anymore I changed out all my hammocks with buckles works a lot better
    Its a good day to be out in the woods no matter the weather.Mist One..

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    Eventually I got decent enough at eyeballing distance that I typically just go with dyneema straps and J-bend now. When I'm headed to unfamiliar areas, I'll sometimes take whoopies along in case I'm stuck for a longer distance between trees, but I've found that dogbones give me pretty much the same extension benefit for less weight and no fiddle factor. When car camping, I use poly straps and June Bug buckles for the convenience. I've always found straps and buckles a little easier to use than whoopies.
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    Whoopies and my ridiculous titanium toggles will be included in my hammock shaped coffin. I shorten them by starting with an 8-inch bury and terminating the static end with short loop and a short bury that is then wrapped into a double overhand stopper knot, Myers style, that loops on itself at a less than six inches if needed. Works well when using the Tensa Solo rig where distances are necessarily short.

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    The issue here in the NE is typically more closely-spaced trees which can limit the utility of whoopies.

    For a good while now I've been using 2x 10' Kevlar or Myers hybrid webbing with either Evo loops, sewn/tied loop or slipped buntline hitch at the tree and Lapp hitch at the hammock CL. When going to areas with which I'm not familiar, a pair of whoopies is cheap, lightweight insurance against big trees and long hangs.

    If you can do some basic splicing it is easy to make some 'shortie' whoopies by placing the adjustable bury much closer to the fixed eye. Early in my hammock learning phase I did this specifically for those tighter hangs but eventually just moved to the simple webbing.

    Short whoopie:

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    I long ago eschewed whoopies for UCR's and/or straps, I flip-flop between those two, but I never cared for how difficult whoopies were to adjust compared to UCR's.
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