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    The 1.1 or the 1.7? That is the question.

    Hi. I'm looking to get a Warbonett Blackbird, but I'm not sure if I should get the single layer 1.1 or the single layer 1.7. I weigh about 164lbs and the limit for the 1.1 is 200. Any opinions on this? I currently own a Hennessy ultralight backpacker asym zip and I'm always pretty comfortable in that. It's the only hammock I've owned so far, but I'm looking to try out another. I'm also looking to shave weight when I backpack, which is why I'm considering the 1.1., but it is just a 4 ounce difference. Will I notice a major difference between the two BB's with my weight?

    Thanks. Any advice would be appreciated.

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    I personally consider single layer hammocks made out of 1.1 oz. fabric to be disposable. I'm 5'11" 160 lbs. and consider the minimum fabric to be 1.6 oz for me. I've had luck with DL 1.1 oz. hammocks but not with SL 1.1 oz. hammocks - too fragile for my camping style (or lack of grace, clumsiness - whatever you want to call it). I'll be looking for other places to shave weight rather than hammock fabric weight.
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    I had a 1.1 DL and then got a XLC in 1.7 SL. The 1.1 feels that much better to the skin that I'm considering getting the XLC in that fabric. But DL, so not for weight savings.

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    I personally consider single layer hammocks made out of 1.1 oz. fabric to be disposable.
    That's an idea, disposable hammocks, just pick up a hammock at you local hammock vending machine at the camp ground.

    If you take care of gear you could go with a single layer. There will a little bit more stretch than with a double layer but not that much. Another advantage with a double layer BB is that you can use a pad and its harder for the skeeters to bite thru two layers of fabric.

    I have to use double layer BB due to my weight.
    I am still 18 but with 52 years of experience !

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    Lets hope Brandon builds some hammocks with the newish 1.6 argon fabric for us folks right around the 200 lb mark, that would make this question easier to answer
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    Why a single layer? For hammock camping/backpacking, my preference is to have Double Layer hammock to supplement a pad if needed in colder weather. The only single layer hammocks I own are used for lounging...

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    I've got a SL original BB 1.7. I'm about your weight and it provides plenty of support, which I like. Its my dedicated summer hammock and being 1.7 and SL, it allows breezes to cool me off in the evening because I don't think the thread weave is as tight as a 1.1 BB. You will definitely have to use permethrin in the summer though, mozzies will be able to bite right thru it.
    I use it all summer on my hikes, I just hose it off in the fall, pack it up, and wait for next summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K0m4 View Post
    I had a 1.1 DL and then got a XLC in 1.7 SL. The 1.1 feels that much better to the skin that I'm considering getting the XLC in that fabric. But DL, so not for weight savings.
    In Colorado even summer night temps require me to wear some type of clothing to bed. I never really have the hammock material next to my skin.
    When I had my 1.1DL wbbb it did remind me of silk sheets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outdoorsguy View Post
    I've got a SL original BB 1.7. I'm about your weight and it provides plenty of support, which I like. Its my dedicated summer hammock and being 1.7 and SL, it allows breezes to cool me off in the evening because I don't think the thread weave is as tight as a 1.1 BB. You will definitely have to use permethrin in the summer though, mozzies will be able to bite right thru it.
    I use it all summer on my hikes, I just hose it off in the fall, pack it up, and wait for next summer.

    Not sure what happened to my last reply. It Didn't post. But anyways, It says the hennessey backpacker ultra lite Hammock fabric is 70D nylon taffeta, 160 x 90 high count. I don't know what that is :-)) is there a comparison to the BB SL 1.7 in fabric type? I've used the Hennessey all summer with no problems from Mosquitos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyL View Post
    Not sure what happened to my last reply. It Didn't post. But anyways, It says the hennessey backpacker ultra lite Hammock fabric is 70D nylon taffeta, 160 x 90 high count. I don't know what that is :-)) is there a comparison to the BB SL 1.7 in fabric type? I've used the Hennessey all summer with no problems from Mosquitos.
    I believe 70D is 1.9

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