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    "De-core-ing" a braided rope?

    Hi everyone,

    I'm currently in Japan and don't really have access to all the fancy ropes (or at least not at reasonable prices), so I just went to Tokyu Hands and got myself some generic braided rope for my guylines (holds 50kg/100lb).
    I found that I can remove the core simply by pulling, leaving a hollow braid. Unfortunately it's still too tightly woven for splicing, but at least it's lighter and less stiff. Also, this way I can insert a small bead that the tensioner-tube can hold on to.
    Can you think of any reason why I shouldn't remove the core?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobl View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I'm currently in Japan and don't really have access to all the fancy ropes (or at least not at reasonable prices), so I just went to Tokyu Hands and got myself some generic braided rope for my guylines (holds 50kg/100lb).
    I found that I can remove the core simply by pulling, leaving a hollow braid. Unfortunately it's still too tightly woven for splicing, but at least it's lighter and less stiff. Also, this way I can insert a small bead that the tensioner-tube can hold on to.
    Can you think of any reason why I shouldn't remove the core?

    Thanks,
    Tobl
    The core is sometimes the majority of the line's strength...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamicsnail View Post
    The core is sometimes the majority of the line's strength...
    Good point. In my case the core is made from the same strands as the mantle, only as a three-stranded rope instead of a eight-stranded braid. Still a problem?

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    Depends on what you are doing with it. As stated above, the majority of double braid ropes derive their strength from the core. But for guylines, youll probably be fine.

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    I guess I'll just start with one and see if I can destroy it. If not, I doubt that setting it as a guyline will.

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    Have you tried a fishing or sailing shop and asked for Dyneema? You might have luck there. I got some Dyneema fishing line that looks quite useful.

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    Wow, the rumored other German hangers actually do exist. ^^ (Hi hutzelbein)

    I just tried it out with one line for now and the mantle holds up just fine without the core. Might well be that the line degrades with exposure, but for now I'll use this rope, esp. since it's a bit rougher than dyneema and I can tie knots securely.

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    yeah, ive heard they love to fish in japan. you could probably find some dyneema line (spyderwire,powerpro) or maybe dacron or spectra planer board line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobl View Post
    Wow, the rumored other German hangers actually do exist. ^^ (Hi hutzelbein)

    I just tried it out with one line for now and the mantle holds up just fine without the core. Might well be that the line degrades with exposure, but for now I'll use this rope, esp. since it's a bit rougher than dyneema and I can tie knots securely.
    I use Dyneema guy lines (made from Lash-It) and I don't use a single knot I've spliced a loop into the end that goes over the stake, and I'm using a prussik (endless loop) to connect the guy line with the tarp. This works beautifully. Just an idea. However, I made do with some line that I bought in an outdoor shop while travelling in New Zealand because I needed something quickly. It just didn't hold up well for long. I assume the line was made from nylon since it was stretchy, and the prussiks I made from the line showed severe abrasion very soon. But it did the job for as long as I needed it to.

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    http://www.thecoastalpassage.com/eye_splice.html

    there's a way to splice double braided into eyes and such.......might seem a little more complicated than simple hollow braided rope...but seems very strong and secure. This link is for the apparently thicker double braid ropes, but I've no doubt it can be done with smaller diameter cords.

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