Underquilt & Cold "side sleeper"

[headchange4u]

Here is a link to a downloadable video demonstrating entering a Hennessy Hammock.
http://www.theplacewithnoname.com/hi...er/hhvid01.htm

Those are nice videos.

You can see in the second video (using the HH with a pad) how a persons hip protrudes further out when they sleep on their side and how it cold create a cold spot.

[Ewker]

You can see in the second video (using the HH with a pad) how a persons hip protrudes further out when they sleep on their side and how it cold create a cold spot.

I looked at that video but don't see how it can create a cold spot (when laying on your side) if you're laying on the pad.

PS. that type of video is good for newbies just getting into hammocking.

[headchange4u]

I looked at that video but don't see how it can create a cold spot (when laying on your side) if you're laying on the pad.

PS. that type of video is good for newbies just getting into hammocking.

It won't really create a cold spot if you are using a pad but the hip sticking out like that will push on the under quilt creating a cold spot.

Hopefully we will have some nice videos like that soon.

[Coffee]

actually not. I have only seen one hammock with an underquilt before. I didn't pay any attention as to how it was attached. After I posted, it hit me those were the dreaded Hennessy Hammocks. It still doesn't look easy to get in one with the underquilt in the way.

Sorry about that. It makes sense now that you mention forgetting about the HH.

On the subject, this maybe one of those things you have to see in person to fully get. That is the only way I fully understood the underquilt thing.

[Otter1]

Of course you'll be warmer next time...you're in Tallahasse for gosh sakes. And it's getting warmer and warmer every day!

Good point!

[Frolicking Dino]

Clarification of the compression problem from a ground-dwellers' perspective: You know how a bag that is too small will not keep you warm because the size of the outer-shell trying to hold a too-big body inside compresses the insulation on top; The same thing can happen in an underquilt when your butt or shoulders sag enough to compress the insulation in an underquilt to its outer-shell (on the bottom in the case of an underquilt). Any time down or other insulation is rendered flat by compression from inside a garment, sleeping bag or quilt, a cold spot results.

[lvleph]

Clarification of the compression problem from a ground-dwellers' perspective: You know how a bag that is too small will not keep you warm because the size of the outer-shell trying to hold a too-big body inside compresses the insulation on top; The same thing can happen in an underquilt when your butt or shoulders sag enough to compress the insulation in an underquilt to its outer-shell (on the bottom in the case of an underquilt). Any time down or other insulation is rendered flat by compression from inside a garment, sleeping bag or quilt, a cold spot results.

That is a good way to explain it.

[funbun]

Dude, go find someone with a hammock and an underquilt. Have them set it up for you and you go see for yourself what we're talking about.

If you're gonna do this hammock thing, Ewker, you're gonna have to either find someone who can show you one on one, buy the stuff yourself and learn first hand. JRB posted that basically all our explanation are correct. If that isn't enough then you need someone to show first hand.

It's like trying to explain how an airplane flies. We could talk physics all day, but once you get in an airplane and go flying it makes more sense.

There is an even better analogy (birds and th bees), but I don't want to offend anyone, if you know what I mean.