Sleeping Bag Preferences/Ideas?!?

**tiptoe** · 07-22-2009, 13:08

EMS 20-degree Mountainlight for me. I'm a cold sleeper, and on warm nights I just open the zipper.

**titanium_hiker** · 07-22-2009, 15:15

Originally Posted by TinaLouise

I'm using silnylon for all my quilts, top and bottom. The only one I have any kind of issues with is my summer top quilt. Some nights, if it's really humid and hotter than I expected, this quilt will feel sort of clammy next to me. I've now started using a silk sleeping bag liner and not had anymore of the clammy nights. With all my other quilts, none are right next to me. Either the hammock is between me and it (uq's) or with the winter quilt, I've got more clothes on!!!
As far as breathable fabric, the minute I start sewing, I've put holes into the fabric. I do not seal these holes after I finish making these quilts. And there's lots of holes with the sewing of the no-see-um baffles. Plus my winter down uq is made with "breathable" silnylon on the hammock side. (new quilt and I've not been able to test this one so I don't know yet how I'm gonna like that breathable material) The bottom side is still coated silnylon with all the sewing needle holes. I've not had any problems at all with the down lofting. When compressing my quilts, it does take a little bit longer to get all the air out, but it does compress out.

Hi Tina, sorry, I still can't get my head around this yet... I didn't think there was breathable silnylon (silicone impregnated nylon) I'm just checking that silnylon is different to ripstop nylon, which is different to coated nylon...

TH

**shrek** · 07-22-2009, 19:41

YMMV, but I have slept into single degrees with just a 20 degree synth bag. One thing I do that helps is buy some of the little throw away handwarmer packets. 1 or 2 in the foot of your bag will have you reaching to open the zipper in just a few minutes. And, it lasts 7-8 hours. At about $1 for two of them, it's a cheap option.

**TinaLouise** · 07-23-2009, 06:39

Originally Posted by titanium_hiker

Hi Tina, sorry, I still can't get my head around this yet... I didn't think there was breathable silnylon (silicone impregnated nylon) I'm just checking that silnylon is different to ripstop nylon, which is different to coated nylon...

TH

ohhh!!!! I get what you're saying

I'm using the term "silnylon" as a general fabric type
You're saying silnylon is the "silcone" coated type of fabric
Ok, so going by that....
My quilts are silnylon (silcone coated ripstop nylon) The material is waterproof untill I start sewing them. The only quilt that has the breathable section is the winter down uq and that's made from DWR coated ripstop nylon on one side and silnylon (silcone coated ripstop nylon) on the other.
Sorry for the confusion, I just never thought of it that way. I just thought of silnylon as either waterproof or breathable ripstop nylon.

**Cannibal** · 07-23-2009, 09:18

Originally Posted by TinaLouise

I just thought of silnylon as either waterproof or breathable ripstop nylon.

It gets worse.

Silnylon is actually nylon ripstop impregnated with silicone, not treated/coated. There is plain old nylon ripstop that has been treated/coated (DWR) and nylon ripstop that is uncoated. Then to make matters worse, there are lots of levels of DWR coating just to muddy the waters more.

Sometimes, my head just hurts.

**TinaLouise** · 07-23-2009, 15:26

Originally Posted by Cannibal

It gets worse.

Silnylon is actually nylon ripstop impregnated with silicone, not treated/coated. There is plain old nylon ripstop that has been treated/coated (DWR) and nylon ripstop that is uncoated. Then to make matters worse, there are lots of levels of DWR coating just to muddy the waters more.

Sometimes, my head just hurts.

Well mine is hurting now too

I went back to http://www.owfinc.com/ and checked out the "silnylon" I bought and it's saying "silicone coated" !!
So does anyone have a link or a site where I can see what this "REAL" silnylon is supposed to be???

**titanium_hiker** · 07-25-2009, 06:42

buy a quilt from the jacks- it comes with a silnylon stuff sack..

the silnylon feels like it's all one fabric, just kind of "waxy" like wax paper feels to regular paper. kind of.

TH

**cabana** · 09-20-2009, 16:52

Can't beat a WM bag

**Quoddy** · 09-20-2009, 18:55

In the past 18 months I sold ALL, but one, of my 5 bags (Feathered Friends, WM, and two Montbell UL SS). Now I'm really happy with the Nunatak Arc Specialist quilt I have, and decided to add another, warmer Nunatak, in time for winter. JRB makes some excellent quilts as well, at a lower price. If the gear is to be used for hammocking, quilts make for a better option than a bag (IMO)... and are certainly more comfortable. I find that, even for ground use, I prefer to use a quilt. The idea of using one takes a while to get used to, but during actual use the benefits are usually very quickly realized.