Cheap rip stop nylon 1.1

[CountryRoads]

Or should I just plunge into SUL with ripstop ARGON like the ever brave countryroads? That's only 8$ per yard.

Hehe thanks Bushwhacker. I do love the argon, but there are concerns about long term durability. Thanks for starting the fabric spreadsheet. Great idea!

[PappyAmos]

Let's see for 1.1 oz / sq yd ripstop

Ripstopbytheroll
1.1 Ripstop - uncalendared - olive drab- 60" wide - $4.25 / yd

DIY Gear Supply
1.1 Ripstop - uncalendared - olive green - 64" wide - $4.95 / yd

Magna Fabrics
Don't see comparable item listed

Quest
1.1 Ripstop - DWR - olive brown - 60" wide - $7.99 / yd

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For 1.3 - 1.4 oz / sq yd silnylon

ripstopbytheroll
1.4 oz silnylon - olive drab - 60" wide - $5.95 / yd


DIY Gear Supply
1.4 oz silnylon 1sts - olive brown - 60+" wide - $9.25 / yd
1.4 oz silnylon 2nds - gray - 60" wide - $5.50 / yd

Quest
1.4 oz silnylon 1sts - forest green - 60+"wide - $10.49 / yd
1.4 oz silnylon 2nds - olive green - 65" wide - $6.70 / yd
1.4 oz silnylon 2nds - coyote brown - 65' wide - $6.70 / yd

For me, I have bought lots of 2nds and never had an issue however, as always, YMMV

Pappy

[Bushwhacker]

Ask Scott, he'd tell you in a heartbeat if he felt you shouldn't be using it for hammocks.

I think the 2nds are just blemishes in the colour but when you figure out the difference in price on the yardage for 1 hammock is it really worth it. I mean we're spending a whole bunch to make a complete outfit, why sell it short just to save a couple of bucks.

It's kinda like spending 5 grand on vacation in the Caribbean but eating at McDonalds while you're there.

So would ripstop by the roll - which doesn't differentiate between seconds and firsts - be safe to make a hammock with?

Is calendering purely cosmetic?

[Thumbs]

I have 49 yards of 68" wide ACU camo 1.1oz pure finish ripstop on the way from Magna. $51.27 shipped. That's $1.05 a yard, heck of a deal IMO.
Ordered it Friday morning, shipped out Friday afternoon.
http://store.magnafabrics.com/produc...42&group=37441

[gmcttr]

So would ripstop by the roll - which doesn't differentiate between seconds and firsts - be safe to make a hammock with?

Is calendering purely cosmetic?

Ripstopbytheroll does not differentiate because all of their fabrics are "firsts". I just ordered two of their fabrics to make hammocks with. They started by selling excess fabric from their sister company which makes hammocks.

Calendering is a process by which ripstop nylon is run between hot rollers at high pressure. For calendered two sides, a single piece of fabric is done at a time so both of it's sides are against the rollers. For calendered one side, two pieces of fabric are run together through the rollers so that only one side of each piece is against the rollers.

Calendering makes the fabric shiny-er, more down resistant, more wind resistant and less breathable.

[Bushwhacker]

Also, for the products ripstopbytheroll lists as 1.1 oz/yd, but have DWR coating - does anyone know if that's the finished weight, or the weight before they put on DWR?

[2Trees]

http://www.owfinc.com/

[gmcttr]

Also, for the products ripstopbytheroll lists as 1.1 oz/yd, but have DWR coating - does anyone know if that's the finished weight, or the weight before they put on DWR?

Good question, I'm guessing it's an untreated weight but email Kyle and ask. He usually responds in a day or less.

[Bushwhacker]

Good question, I'm guessing it's an untreated weight but email Kyle and ask. He usually responds in a day or less.

He just got back to me - his scale only measures in .2 intervals, but he said DWR normally adds 0.1g/yd2 (It still came in at 1.1oz/yd2 on his scale).

[ripstopbytheroll]

Ripstopbytheroll does not differentiate because all of their fabrics are "firsts". I just ordered two of their fabrics to make hammocks with. They started by selling excess fabric from their sister company which makes hammocks.

Calendering is a process by which ripstop nylon is run between hot rollers at high pressure. For calendered two sides, a single piece of fabric is done at a time so both of it's sides are against the rollers. For calendered one side, two pieces of fabric are run together through the rollers so that only one side of each piece is against the rollers.

Calendering makes the fabric shiny-er, more down resistant, more wind resistant and less breathable.

Great description of calendering there. Having worked with both calendered and non calendered fabrics, it's my opinion that uncalendered fabrics are the way to go for hammocks. The shiny finish of a calendered fabric sometimes looks weird and can give the hammock a sort of trash bag look. Uncalendered fabric also feels better on the skin to me. Maybe it doesn't matter to some, which is cool. Just my thoughts.