Suspension: 1 1/2 or 2 inch cinch buckles??

**brodieb666** · 04-12-2014, 01:45

Originally Posted by gmcttr

I've got a ways to go.

Who do you plan on making straps for? I can't think of anyone that wouldn't love to have theirs looking like that!

I had been thinking of doing the same thing, but just using polyester. Your solution is much better weight-wise with no obvious drawback that i can see- the abrasion resistance may be lower, but for a non-moving part, whatever the force on it, i don't think think you'd have to worry about it.

One reason i hadn't had some made was because i wasn't sure what lengths i would need: how is the 4.5' of polyro working out for you (if you've had a chance to take them out). I was worried that having too much 2" might cause difficulties and having to little would make the whole thing pointless.

Any reason you didn't put another 1" loop on the other end instead of the 2"?

**gmcttr** · 04-12-2014, 09:08

Originally Posted by brodieb666

...One reason i hadn't had some made was because i wasn't sure what lengths i would need: how is the 4.5' of polyro working out for you (if you've had a chance to take them out). I was worried that having too much 2" might cause difficulties and having to little would make the whole thing pointless.

Any reason you didn't put another 1" loop on the other end instead of the 2"?

I haven't had a reason to use a 2" strap. I made these as a proof of concept for others to use if they desired to save weight with the wide straps. I'm embarrassed to say they were put on a shelf and forgotten. I guess this is a reason to go hang.

I sized these by measuring a couple of average sized trees close by.

No reason for not using a 1" section on both sides except to expedite construction. It may be a good idea to use 1" both sides to reduce wear on the polypropylene eye if passing one end through the other to secure. It certainly wouldn't hurt anything.

**MAD777** · 04-12-2014, 09:13

Did you ask Gary if he would sew these up for you? I don't think my cheap sewing machine could handle 3 layers if strap.

**gmcttr** · 04-12-2014, 09:37

Gary has made 2" to 1" combo straps before with all polyester but I don't know if he normally has the polypropylene webbing.

**DemostiX** · 04-13-2014, 23:46

Would someone remind me why a 1" strap long enough to wrap the tree 1.5 times won't do? Yes, it would be about tree radius x pi longer than necessary.... But the load bearing would all be on 2" of strap. No need for additional sewing. No overlap of sewn layers. Standard hardware remains unchanged. I

With apologies if this has been dismissed earlier.

**MAD777** · 04-14-2014, 02:10

Agree DemostiX. It's probably just a perception thing. If regs call for 2" straps, that's what they will be looking for. It may help if you bring the ranger a pie, of course!

**Zilla** · 04-14-2014, 04:52

I have posted about this before, almost 8 months ago when I had Gary make up my 2 to ones,, they might be allttle heavy but the ranger that was giving me a hard time about the trees has stopped harrasing me. At least at the end of last season, have not come acres him yet this year

FS (2).jpg

**Detman101** · 06-10-2014, 10:54

Originally Posted by PappyAmos

I tried some sleeves over my 1" straps. Result was 1" of the center of the sleeves bearing all the pressure and the sides were not loaded. No real difference in the load on the tree.

Pappy

As long as it meets the inane park requirements and shuts them up...that will work!

**Jucee** · 06-02-2016, 07:47

Think about this; even with 1" it's only good if the webbing is perfectly perpendicular to the tree. It never is. In fact, it's probably at a 30 degree angle with respect to the tree and a proper hang. So, not all of that 1" is even in contact with the tree! Maybe 75% of it is. I'm not sure going wider than 1" is of any considerable benefit. Just my thought.

**Zilla** · 06-02-2016, 12:27

Originally Posted by Jucee

Think about this; even with 1" it's only good if the webbing is perfectly perpendicular to the tree. It never is. In fact, it's probably at a 30 degree angle with respect to the tree and a proper hang. So, not all of that 1" is even in contact with the tree! Maybe 75% of it is. I'm not sure going wider than 1" is of any considerable benefit. Just my thought.

I do not believe this to be true.but i am sure someone has done some actuall research on this somewhere, in the meentime you can allways get a set of 4 ft long x 2 inch wide tree huggers from a few ot the venders on here now, some are making them out of seatbelt material.