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    Guylines on SpinnUL Tarps

    I've got a spinnul deluxe on the way. How are you all guying this out. Heard I dont need tensioners. Trying to figure the lightest system that will pitch quick.

    Also, are you using skins or the stuffsack?

    Finally, a starting length for the guylines? I do want to use one side as an awning occasionally.

    Thanks for the advice. Cant wait to see this thing.

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    No tensioners needed, really. For line, I use either yellow mason line from Home Depot or the Speer No-Tangle. Some report difficulties with the mason line tangling, but I've had pretty good luck with it as long as I wrap it before I stuff it.

    I don't use either skins or a stuffsack. I just cram it down in the outer pocket of my pack so I can get to it quick if needed.

    Guyline length...ummmmm, a lot? I haven't measured it recently, but I'd guess I probably have close to 7' to 10' of line at each point. Overkill. However, I like having the extra line if I want to do something funky with the tarp or just have the extra line for some other need around camp. It's light, so I really don't mind.

    Hope it helps.
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    I carry 10 feet of line on all sides.

    I use the Kelty triptease line. Like cannibal said, no tensioners needed.

    I currently use the stuff sack - when the weather is nice i just wrap the sides around the "ridgeline" making it fold up like it's in some snake skins.

    You will LOVE the tarp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannibal View Post
    No tensioners needed, really. For line, I use either yellow mason line from Home Depot or the Speer No-Tangle. Some report difficulties with the mason line tangling, but I've had pretty good luck with it as long as I wrap it before I stuff it.

    I don't use either skins or a stuffsack. I just cram it down in the outer pocket of my pack so I can get to it quick if needed.

    Guyline length...ummmmm, a lot? I haven't measured it recently, but I'd guess I probably have close to 7' to 10' of line at each point. Overkill. However, I like having the extra line if I want to do something funky with the tarp or just have the extra line for some other need around camp. It's light, so I really don't mind.

    Hope it helps.
    I recently purchased the same tarp and have yet to set it up (how sad is that??). I'd like to know if you guys use a single ridge-line with prussils to tension the tarp or do you tie a line from each end of the tarp? I have always used a single line but I am open to suggestions. ANy advantage or disadvantage to either setup other than the weight of the rope?
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    I've always used a separate piece for each end of the tarp but this weekend I made a single ridge line system for my tarps. Uses pussik loop with a couple extra wraps. I also used flag clips on the prussiks so the line could be easily moved to various tarps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by headchange4u View Post
    I've always used a separate piece for each end of the tarp but this weekend I made a single ridge line system for my tarps. Uses pussik loop with a couple extra wraps. I also used flag clips on the prussiks so the line could be easily moved to various tarps.
    That's what I have always used except I have a separate ridge line for each tarp stored in the stuff sack. I have two sons in the house that like to borrow my gear so this way I never end up in the woods wondering where my ridge line is. Thanks for the feedback.
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    I use the separate lines. Not for any real reason, it's just the way I've always done it.
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    Another vote for seperate long ones. The one or two times in 10 you use it, it's great to have and worth the .1 oz.

    There was a lot of talk a long time ago about running the ridgeline under the tarp. I can't remember the outcome but I think the cons came down to extra weight and wear on the bottom edge of the tarp.

    If you probibly rig up a good compression knot to the ridgeline so you can slide the tarp back and forth without untieing. Not sure what would be gained.
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    Agree with separate lines on each end for the ridge line tie out, however suggest anything but 550 para cord. It stretches when wet.
    On the matter of tensioners - generally not needed but I found in the high winds (up to 50mph gusts) on my AT trip a couple of weeks ago that having tensioners gave the tarp some room to flex in the wind. I think that may have helped with keeping the stakes in the ground. Otherwise the tarp is really tight and holds well without tensioners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zdank View Post
    How are you all guying this out. ...a starting length for the guylines? I do want to use one side as an awning occasionally.

    Also, are you using skins or the stuffsack?
    I have on the way a 12x10 in SpinnUL from Brian--should arrive tomorrow. I had Brian install the guylines--10' on the ridgeline and 6' on the other ties. He is using 2mm green line, precut and sealed with heat-shrink tubing (not sure exactly what that is, but it sounded cool). I will also use an awning when weather permits, and will carry additional line for that purpose. I don't plan to use skins nor a stuffsack (except for storage when not hiking). Instead I will keep the tarp folded in an outside pocket for quick hanging in wet weather, before I hang the hammock. Hope this helps. Have fun.

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