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    Ok I would like to Mod my eno. I think I figured out that Amsteel is used for the whoopie slings, 1" tubular webbing around the tree. but what am i to use for my ridgeline ? can I use a longer whoopie sling ? and what about the continous loops on the end's. I have my source for amsteel unless there is a place that is cheaper than 0.28 a ft.


    where can I onestop shop for the rings and such.




    man i'm confused LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemedic View Post
    Ok I would like to Mod my eno. I think I figured out that Amsteel is used for the whoopie slings, 1" tubular webbing around the tree. but what am i to use for my ridgeline ? can I use a longer whoopie sling ? and what about the continous loops on the end's. I have my source for amsteel unless there is a place that is cheaper than 0.28 a ft.


    where can I onestop shop for the rings and such.




    man i'm confused LOL
    Here is a ridgeline whoopie....http://shop.whoopieslings.com/Adjust...e-Line-ASR.htm

    Rings......http://shop.whoopieslings.com/SMC-De...ally-81600.htm
    Hope that helps a bit.
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    You probably want to avoid the tubular webbing for the tree straps. All I have ever seen has been nylon, and that stretches out as you hang from it. Polyester is best suited for that job.

    Amsteel is commonly used for both the continuous loops and Whoopies. You can use the same diameter line for both. Most folks here use something lighter for the ridgeline like zing-it. It is dyneema like Amsteel, but much smaller diameter and lighter. DIYgearsupply has dyneema tech line that I have personally found easier to splice than zing-it.

    The adjustable ridgeline is basically a long whoopie sling with a smaller adjustable loop on one end. I hope that helps!

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    Yes thanks it helps alot, I wanted to make my own continous loops and whoopie slings, I used to do that kind of rope and line work in the Navy, so it comes pretty easy. but I may just end up buying it just because it is inexpensive.

    I'm trying to get all of my ducks in a row for when i attend the The hang we have coing up in sept. in Santee,SC.


    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiknhanger View Post
    You probably want to avoid the tubular webbing for the tree straps. All I have ever seen has been nylon, and that stretches out as you hang from it. Polyester is best suited for that job.
    The webbing I was looking at is a webbing that climbers use. No stretch

    I just ordered some 7/64 Amsteel, and some Dyneema, along with some rings
    from DIYGear.

    thanks for the advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemedic View Post
    The webbing I was looking at is a webbing that climbers use. No stretch

    I just ordered some 7/64 Amsteel, and some Dyneema, along with some rings
    from DIYGear.

    thanks for the advice
    AFAIK the tubular climbing webbing is nylon and it does stretch. That's what I found when I tried it when I first started. Since its tubular its also a little bulkier. It'll still work but depending on how much you use you may set up fine and later on find your set up has drooped a little. As mentioned, polyester is the recommended choice by most people here for no stretch webbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemedic View Post
    The webbing I was looking at is a webbing that climbers use. No stretch

    I just ordered some 7/64 Amsteel, and some Dyneema, along with some rings
    from DIYGear.

    thanks for the advice
    That climbers webbing will still stretch. Many people including me have had it happen. It is designed to stretch and spring back in case a climber falls so the sudden stop at the end of the safety rope doesn't snap the climber's back. It is extremely strong, but it'll sure get longer under a static load overnight in a hammock. My first overnight in a hammock was hanging from 1" climbers tubular webbing. I spent half the night trying not to slide down to the foot of my hammock because my webbing was stretched out longer from the tree at the foot end, and it gave more than the shorter length on the head end. I believe many others here can back me up on that one. I just want to save you some hassle and money. I ended up buying polyester straps and have been very happy. I use the webbing Scott sells at DIY Gear Supply myself. I am a big boy, and it has not stretched with me at all. HYOH! Have fun!

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    Climbing webbing has a stretch factor built into it. It is not "stretch" like elastic. But it is intended for "dynamic" loads. It will absorb shock in the event of a catastrophic fall and stretches to do that. That is an essential feature for most climbing webbing and rope. You would be happier I think with a "static" load product like polyester or polypro webbing. That said... some people do use tubular webbing for tree huggers and report no problems because the overall length is fairly short. But it would not be my first choice.
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    It all comes back to me now LOL.


    I do now remember from Rope Rescue class that the webbing for climbers is Dynamic rather than Static.

    Getting old has effect on the brain cells.

    Thanks for the wake up.

    So, I have my Amsteel and Dyneema coming. But I still need to protect the tree, and my SlapStraps that I have will stretch, so my option is Polyester or PolyPro, "OR" ?

    any other suggestions will be great.


    Thanks again

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    Some folks have found some pretty inexpensive ratchet straps in local stores and have used them successfully after cutting off the hardware. Just make sure they aren't nylon and you are back in the same boat with the stretch issue. You can probably contact Scott at DIY and add a few feet of webbing to your order too.

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