For people who have both a bridge hammock and a bannana hammock (Hennessy, Blackbird, Traveler, DIY, etc.), do you notice a difference with the warmth of your underquilts? Do you sleep warmer in one hammock type than the other using the same underquilt?
Point me in the right direction if this has come up in another thread. I'm guessing it probably has.
Last edited by HappyCamper; 11-10-2011 at 10:50.
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There is a thread on this somewhere, but the warmest night I have had so far was the combination of a BMBH with a Mt. Washington quilt. The fit is perfect in my opinion.
I was toasty warm at 7F in my "banana" hammock. No complaints.
I guess it's more simple to get the UQ fit right on a bridge. I've got my UQ's figured out just fine and have not had an issue with fit or warmth ever since.
The drawback to the simplicity of a bridge is the weight. Toss the coin, personal choice, it all works out in the end.
I think you can be equally warm in a bridge or gathered end. Not all underquilts will work well with both styles of hammock.
Sorry to the OP, the rest of this is a bit off topic.
While I agree that when you look at a bare bones, smaller dimension GE hammock such as the GT Nano7 or similar with dynaglide whoopies, one will be hard pressed to match the weight.Originally Posted by Joey
BUT, bridge designs can be light weight. My DIY#3, double layer 1.1oz/yd bridge with CF spreaders weighs less than a stock, cord suspension, WB Traveller 1.1 DL (18oz vs 19.5). My DIY#4, single layer 1.6oz/yd bridge, if I had used with CF spreaders, would weigh almost the same as a stock WB Traveller 1.1 SL (13oz vs 12.5). Others are working on similar weight reductions.
Not trying to be argumentative, but just wanted to get it out there that choosing a bridge does not mean you have carry a lot of extra weight.
EDIT: Just wanted to add that I am in no way knocking the WB Traveller. It is a very comfortable netless GE favored by many here on HF. Just using it for comparison. Brandon makes awesome hammocks and I am very interested to see what he comes up with when he gets the time to put out a bridge.
EDIT2: Cripes! I'm starting to sound evangelistic about bridge hammocks these days. Sorry again for pulling this thread off track.
Last edited by BER; 11-10-2011 at 12:27.
Here is a link to that thread.
It a bridge for me.
Jerry
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You beat me to it by ~ 60 min!
I started that thread to discuss my observation that it might be easier to avoid drafts with a TQ in a BMBH than with other hammocks. Several folks seemed to have the same opinion. OTOH, if you are inside a sleeping bag, in either type of hammock, or inside of a PeaPod and a gathered end, there will be no draft problems. Course most of us avoid being inside a sleeping bag, and others don't even use the wider sleeping bags as a quilt, to save weight with a dedicated hammock quilt. And some of those have reported draft problems, and I suspect they would have had less TQ drafty problems in the BMBH. At least I seem to.
As for back warmth, I also think there is at least a potential big advantage with a BMBH. And that is I honestly think the average Joe/Jane is almost guaranteed to be warm hanging a JRB UQ, and especially an MW, onto the BMBH. And maybe other UQs also. Unless you don't look at the directions, it is very hard to get this wrong. There are not going to be any cold spots, gaps, loft compressed too much , etc, with an MW on a BMBH. Hence I have never seen any threads complaining of being cold with that combo(have I just missed those threads? Maybe.) Of course, a really cold sleeper might not be able to go to 10F, but they will have the same problem with any hammock or quilt, and maybe even on the ground.
But let's be frank: there are LOTS of threads on here where some one has got a 20F rated quilt ( TQ or UQ) for a GE hammock and been cold at 40. They have draft and suspension or end gap problems mainly. OK, some people have zero problems right off the bat. Others have a lot of trouble, but usually get it worked out and then are fine, and plenty warm. But sometimes they have quite a lot of fiddle before they figure it out. The numbers of threads and posts on this subject bear(bare?) this out. An UQ on a GE hammock requires some precision adjustment, and even more so if not a dif cut. It has to be the right tension and position, and then you have to be laying just right relative to all of that, and thrashers have extra challenges.
A personal example? I love my WB Climashield Dif cut Yeti, one of my all time favs. But it has to be tensioned enough, and it HAS to be within just a couple of inches of the sweet spot relative to my neck/shoulders. More than a few inches off, and major venting is going to take place. Same thing if too loose, and it doesn't have to be very loose to be TOO loose!
These are not considerations using an MW UQ on a JRB BMBH. The 1st time user is probably going to get it right the first try, or at least close enough. But once you get things right with the GE, even if you don't immediately do so, you are going to be just as warm.
Plus, if you are using a GE with a PeaPod ( and for me an HHSS), I also think you are not going to have any of those issues. Any one seen a thread here titled something like " Got my new 20F PeaPod, and back froze at 40."? Nope, me either. You can mess a PeaPod up, but not easy and it is extra forgiving of error. And for those of us that the HHSS works for at all, and within it's temp limits, there is not much fiddle either. Just put it on, it either works or it doesn't, there is not much to adjust. So for these 2 combos using a GE, I'd say no bridge advantage, except in TQ dept compared to the HH.
Last edited by BillyBob58; 11-11-2011 at 17:10.
I'm unfamiliar with bridge hammocks. Do the UQ's cover the head/food ends? I've been thinking about getting myself one to have an alternative design and broaden my own experience/knowlede.
Cheers,
Mickey
They don't. Unless the bridge is too small for you, you normally don't touch either the head or foot.
As far as UQs go its all about fit. I just sold my original KAQ Potomac. If you know anything about that quilt you know its shaped more or less like a diamond. I got it to work with my bridge and slept comfy to 55*.
I suggest finding a hammock that pleases you then finding an UQ to match. Its all about the fit.
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Got it. Thanks! I have mostly JRB quilts, so I think they are designed for both gathered ends and bridge. I guess I'm off to buy a bridge now. Sigh, it's a never ending cycle.
Cheers,
Mickey
Thanks BER i didn't catch that above. Now I will have to put my Camo BridgeZilla on the scale tonight and get a weight.
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