Quote Originally Posted by scoutdad View Post
The BA bag (30), BA pad (22) + Oware CCF pad (6) total 58 ozs. Not as light as I would like but it is a cool weather combination and allows me to use the HH. I have friends who are compelled to carry their 7+ lb 4 season tens in comparable weather. For summertime the BA pad is unnecessary much of the time.

With the bigger MacCat tarp set up tight for bad weather the Overcover seems redundant the way I am set up. The Undercover as an alternative to the BA pad bears some consideration. Problem is that there are times where I can't hang (above treeline and on coastal routes) and I need the BA inflatable pad to keep my hips from grousing at me too much if I have to set up the HH in ground bound mode
I hear that! And I feel the same, so at least a minimal, short pad is likely to always accompany me.