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    Senior Member Mike_O's Avatar
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    I'm at 14.5lbs and I'm trying hard to get that to 12 before I add food. Two nights/Three days with food for 15lbs is what I'm shooting for, I understand where you are coming from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captn View Post
    Start with a spreadsheet

    Then weigh EVERYTHING that you have

    Build your list on the spreadsheet and total the weights.


    Then you can start making decisions on what to carry.
    +1 This is the secret to lighten the load!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captn View Post
    Start with a spreadsheet
    Then weigh EVERYTHING that you have

    Build your list on the spreadsheet and total the weights.

    Then you can start making decisions on what to carry.
    couldn't agree more with this ^

    A spreedsheet is an invaluable tool, not only for getting your base weight down, but also for packing in genera so you don't forget something.

    Take a look at this. It's a web based gear list that was posted on the BPL
    forums. Very cool if you don't use or have excel or open office to create a gearlist.

    Www.seansullivan.com/gear
    On another note, I'd love to see a gearlist forum here since I'm always using the one on BPL, however more often than not you see people being told to ditch their hammocks because there is a ground shelter that is "lighter" and that may very well be the case. I feel that if there was such a forum at HF.net we could show great ways to lighten you load basses on hammocking. Just food for thought.
    Last edited by Distortedaxis; 03-25-2011 at 07:20.

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    medicjimr,

    make a spreadsheet and post it on HF... I'm sure there are plenty of us light weight nerds that can help shed some pounds. But first we need to see what you are currently dealing with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medicjimr View Post
    I am trying hard and wide to bring my weights down and bulk , But want to know how can a a person reach a low base weight when you average in hammock weight UQ and TQ myself I am 6 ' 235 lbs so need a double layer hammock there's almost 2 lbs then figure almost a pound or two each TQ UQ theres 4 -6 right there add your tarp stakes guide lines etc thats another pound plus so 9-10 and my ula catalyst which will downgrade to ohm if can get weights and bulk in check . is 3 1'2 lbs so 13-14 lbs total now how do people think hammocks can get you ultralight you add some clothing cook kit first aid you know where I am going now this is a 3 season set up I am talking about not summer. ya my bag will TQ will be minimal and might not need UQ but it all adds up Or is 25-35 a acceptable weight thats including food and water for a hammock camper
    Hi Jim,
    I have experimented with different pack loads on short hikes(2-5mi) close to the house and determined 30# is the max I can carry without shoulder or lower back pain.
    Once I determined that weight, I started looking for items in the pack I could do without or change to something lighter and not decrease comfort too much.
    I was not able to lighten my sleep system very much. Hammock, quilts, tarp, line and stakes are at the min for comfort and safety I want.
    It's the other stuff I carry where I could really trim with min discomfort.

    For example:
    I started with the cookkit.
    Swapping my metal coffee cup for plastic, 1 alky stove, 1 pot cooking, etc.


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    I'm fairly new to this, only been backpacking for a year or so. Can only get out occasionally and have limited money. I still manage to make keep my base weight around 12-13lbs for 3 season with a bunch of "heavy" makeshift gear items. I'm working on a new summer/3 season kit and what's helped me is checking out others gear list. Just copy and paste. Change things around to make it your own. Raul Perez has helped me with this by sending me his gear list and being kind enough to talk to me about it.

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    Here's my tenative list. Is about what I used last fall for the Loyalsock trail.

    UL Backpacking checklist

    ULTRALIGHT CHECKLIST

    GoLite Jam

    KNIFE / Spyderco

    Rain Cover (mountain laurel designs)

    Cooking pot (6 oz) Snow Peak 900

    Coffee cup (1.9 oz)

    MiniBullDesigns mini atomic (0.5 oz)

    BushBuddy UL

    Fuel Bottle (8 or 16 oz)

    Ridgearest (half) 10 oz

    Hennessy hammock (1 lb 15 oz)

    Crows Nest Summer Phoenix (11.7 oz)

    Over Quilt Summer Burrow (14.5 oz)

    WATER BOTTLE Platypus 17 oz bottle (1 oz)

    PLATYPUS GRAVITY FILTER (12 oz)

    PLATYPUS Pack Bladder (3.5 oz)

    SPORK (.5 oz)

    MSR UL TOWEL (1.8 oz)

    TOILET PAPER

    TOOTHBRUSH/TOOTH PASTE

    ZIP LOCK BAGS

    TOOTHPASTE

    Survivor SAW

    RIBZ pack
    (in Ribz pack)

    LIGHTER

    FIRE STRIKER (1 oz) & TINDER

    HEADLAMP (3.1 oz)

    GPS/compass/map/map case

    Camera

    LIGHTER

    FIRST AID KIT

    extra CORD

    PERSONAL ID/MONEY


    Food (in Pack)
    To be determined (Mountain House Pro Pac & Enertia Trail Foods) for 10 days. Probably cereal for breakfast so save on fuel weigh then I just have to boil water for coffee.

    Extra Clothing

    SOCKS (1pair)
    Wool hat
    L/S shirt
    Leather gloves
    Patagonia Down Sweater

    ....lbs

    Wear
    Kuhl pants
    BlackHawk Ops boot (lightweight/good ankle support)
    Socks
    Tshirt
    Hat

    All my clothing is wicking for fast drying and doesnt start to smell so quickly. This way I can cut alot of weight in that area. I may bring two pair of socks.
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    Here is my take. I'm not an ultra light backpacker, I'm more like "comfortable light". I have cut 10 to 13 pounds from my load over the last 4 years. My sleep gear is a 1.1 double WBBB, 11x10 SpinnUL tarp, JBR Nest and Hudson River long, whoopies, straps etc. and tyvek ground cloth. I use a ULA Catalyst pack. Summer base weight (no water, no food, no quilts) is roughly 18 pounds. Winter base weight (no water, no food) is roughly 23 pounds ( includes extra clothes and quilts). When you are comfortable and rested is what makes your hiking enjoyable, so now that means we are back to HYOH. The older I get the more I think "Stop and Smell the Roses" is a good idea.

    + however many on the spreadsheet. Only way to really find out where to cut things out or down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captn View Post
    Start with a spreadsheet

    Then weigh EVERYTHING that you have

    Build your list on the spreadsheet and total the weights.


    Then you can start making decisions on what to carry.
    Totally agree!
    Get a scale, and start by weighing EVERYTHING. It helps.
    Clothing was a biggee for me.
    Gear can be trimmed down when money allows. Or eliminated. Or DIY'd.
    Kick out all the redundancy items..two+ knives, three lighters, a hundred feet of extra line, large first aid kit, extra pots and pans, extra fire starters, etc. it all adds up.

    Try to multi-purpose your items. Practice with your down-sized kit and see if it all works for YOU. If at worst you have a bad experience for one or two nights. I'm not saying "life-threatening" down size. Shelter and warmth are a necessity. But those can be lightened.

    Once you see all your items weights, you can best determine what is really important to you.

    Another thing, bigger guys (speaking from experience here) will have a harder time getting pack weights to equal another hiker who is 6" shorter and 50-100 lbs. lighter than you. Your clothing will proportionally weigh more. An XXL shirt of the same material as a medium shirt, will weigh more.
    The quilts can be smaller, the clothing is smaller, the pack can be smaller. Might not seem like much but it all adds up.

    Trim where you can, and enjoy.
    Ambulo tua ambulo.

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    The answers are all here, take a look at Srg Rocks UL set-up, take a look at Rauls list, GLP's, TeWa's, Trout's, and many/many more! Reason I say this is you will see a common theme amongst them all, there list is "Very Short" but compiles everything "They" would need for "Their" area of hiking, remember the differences in weights between summer and winter as it all plays a roll!
    UL is also not just a number, it's a mind-set! This is something that most do not understand, unless you have been there/done that! You can go UL and still be comfortable, Rock did it, as many others have, but it doesn't work for everyone! I think Shug said it best in one of his videos and that was he has done the whole Ultralight weight thing a square of Tp per day thing no this, no that, which has helped him get where he is now, "Happy"! And that is what I took from it "Happy", Hooch says it all the time, "I don't weigh gear I just throw it in and hike", but that was and is his choice!
    Others have mentioned about posting your list, and this is "GREAT" advise as there are a whole lot of very experienced lightweight and UL hikers on here that will help chip away at the list!
    I have gotten that UL set-up but I don't carry it anymore, as I am a gear *****, and I change my gear like most change undies, pretty much daily!
    Good luck Jim, I'm sure you will get to where you want to be!
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