Custom Undercover for my Winter UQ made by 2QZQ

[OutandBack]

Just so we can compare apples to apples.
I have the HHSS.
I will go out and install the SS sylnylon bottom only(no OSF)
on my current kit.

Head End. To keep the full loft of the Phoenix Winter UQ I had to chockup quite a bit.


Head end looking towards foot. Side you get into the hammock from.


Foot end side you get into the hammock


Foot end, looking at shelf


Close up of shelf/footbox area after I climbed in and stuffed my feet into the SB and footbox.



Conclusion: The HHSS is longer but not wider. Fit around footbox is better but there is still the crack thingy
going on around the shelf. Not sure I care about that with either UQ covers.

[OutandBack]

I wanted to comment about my camera angles.
I measured the distance from the UQP gathered ends to the end (big knot) of the wbbb
and it was 10 inch on each end.

Here is an example of that bad camera angle. It looks like the UQP is 2 foot to short when It really is only 10" from the end of the hammocks big knot.



My camera has a very wide angle and the hammock was about 8 inchs from the lens.. This causes the photo to distort the distances.

hth

[MuseJr]

OutandBack, Thanks for the report. I've been on the fence about these for a couple months. If they are offered in ripstop I think that might get me off the fence.

[Alan]

I've been using the HH SS undercover on my WBBB lately with great success.
I layer like this:

TQ
WBBB
Molly Mac 5-in-1 w/ extra layers
HH SS undercover
AHE New River UQ w/ winter upgrade (if needed)

[canoeski]

OutandBack,

Now you got me thinking. I'm going to have to give my HHSS a try w/ my WBBB.

I gave up on it shortly after getting it w/ my HH Exp UL when I got frost, then melted frost that wetted my down UQ at 17°F.

O&B: is that a Lamby in your hammock?

[OutandBack]

OutandBack,

Now you got me thinking. I'm going to have to give my HHSS a try w/ my WBBB.

I gave up on it shortly after getting it w/ my HH Exp UL when I got frost, then melted frost that wetted my down UQ at 17°F.

O&B: is that a Lamby in your hammock?

HI Canoeski,
Yes I gave up on my HHSS when I got condensation in my hammock sleeping bag and UQ.
If you add another VB(spaceblanket) right below you that will stop the condensation from getting into the UQ. I have tested this and it does work.

I don't know why, but using a space blanket bothers me. I worry the material above the SpaceBlanket (hammock, SleepingBag, the cloths I wear to bed) will still get damp/wet.
I just don't want to take that chance.

My approach/ experiment is to have all breathable materials above and below me.
So far this is working very well with no sign of dampness on any of my materials.
Except the tarp which has had frost on both sides all three nights.

To be fare, I have only spent 3 nights with lows temps @+15F, on nite 2 it snowed.
-10F could give me very different results.
The Colorado weather has just not cooperated yet. But my kit is all setup in the backyard and ready for the next winter storm to blow thru.

Thanks for joining in.

PS- Report nite3. Nothing new to report low was +20F all dry in sector 80128

[canoeski]

HI Canoeski,
Yes I gave up on my HHSS when I got condensation in my hammock sleeping bag and UQ.
If you add another VB(spaceblanket) right below you that will stop the condensation from getting into the UQ. I have tested this and it does work.

I don't know why, but using a space blanket bothers me. I worry the material above the SB (hammock, SB, the cloths I wear to bed) will still get damp/wet.
I just don't want to take that chance.

My approach/ experiment is to have all breathable materials above and below me.
So far this is working very well with no sign of dampness on any of my materials.
Except the tarp which has had frost on both sides all three nights.

To be fare, I have only spent 3 nights with lows temps @+15F, on nite 2 it snowed.
-10F could give me very different results.
The Colorado weather has just not cooperated yet. But my kit is all setup in the backyard and ready for the next winter storm to blow thru.

Thanks for joining in.

PS- Report nite3. Nothing new to report low was +20F all dry in sector 80128

Thanks for the update.
I have been using a thin mylar space blanket between me and the down UQ an I agree I think it helps a lot. So thanks to you,this is worth another try.

Still not admitting to sleeping with a Lamby (pronounced: LAM-e)?
Your avatar make me suspicious.

[OutandBack]

Still not admitting to sleeping with a Lamby (pronounced: LAM-e)?
Your avatar make me suspicious.

HaHa! I forgot you asked me about that.

Yes I with my 20+ year old lamby

Warmest hat I have ever owned. When the moon shines thru your tarp or it gets really cold out you can unsnap the bill and fold it over your face
keeping your eyes and nose toasty warm...while blocking the moon light.

[OutandBack]

I have two additional picture to add showing the current length of the UQP from each end.

Head End:


Foot End:



I spoke with Donna and offered 2 suggestions that would really make this breathable UQP (((Super Nice))).

1) Increase the total length by 18" (thanks to Shug and BlazeAway's suggestion on end to end coverage)
I am using a stormcrow build 3/4 Winter Phoenix.
The loft is over 5" so this downy boy really pokes out below the hammock. See my post above this one in my Lamby hat.
See how much that UQ lofts? This really requires more material to cover the UQ and hammock without compressing it.

2) To help the side edges of the UQP really stay put and hug the top edge of the hammock, possibly keeping the wbbb footbox
in the UQP I suggested adding a small 1/16" dia. shockcord to each long side with the plastic press to adjust spring thingy so
the cord could be snugged up based on your hammock kit.

I look forward to talking with Donna @ 2QZQ and hope they will at least offer a limited run of this very cool bit of hammock kit...

Thanks everyone for your ideas and comments. I have had a blast testing and reporting my findings to you.

[pizza]

I spoke with Donna and offered 2 suggestions that would really make this breathable UQP (((Super Nice))).

1) Increase the total length by 18" (thanks to Shug and BlazeAway's suggestion on end to end coverage)
I am using a stormcrow build 3/4 Winter Phoenix.
The loft is over 5" so this downy boy really pokes out below the hammock. See my post above this one in my Lamby hat.
See how much that UQ lofts? This really requires more material to cover the UQ and hammock without compressing it.

2) To help the side edges of the UQP really stay put and hug the top edge of the hammock, possibly keeping the wbbb footbox
in the UQP I suggested adding a small 1/16" dia. shockcord to each long side with the plastic press to adjust spring thingy so
the cord could be snugged up based on your hammock kit.

I look forward to talking with Donna @ 2QZQ and hope they will at least offer a limited run of this very cool bit of hammock kit...

Thanks everyone for your ideas and comments. I have had a blast testing and reporting my findings to you.

Good ideas. I think the shock cord will help hold the sides up better so it doesn't sag towards the middle on the sides.