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    Blackbishop and jimtanker actually did something similar, Arkwater. I'd be worried about snagging it on something, though - snagging a pack isn't a big deal, but when you're hanging in it at night...to me, that's not worth the pound saved over a light pack. Though the pack cover would protect it somewhat.

    Still a worthy project - solve that problem and I'd be willing to give it a shot. I had considered something like a baby sling type thing...wrap it around me and put the gear where you'd put the baby. Convenient access to gear, but probably hot in summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    Blackbishop and jimtanker actually did something similar, Arkwater. I'd be worried about snagging it on something, though - snagging a pack isn't a big deal, but when you're hanging in it at night...to me, that's not worth the pound saved over a light pack. Though the pack cover would protect it somewhat.

    Still a worthy project - solve that problem and I'd be willing to give it a shot. I had considered something like a baby sling type thing...wrap it around me and put the gear where you'd put the baby. Convenient access to gear, but probably hot in summer.
    I had thought about using spectra gridstop for duability, but that stuff is kinda pricey! Maybe make the gear hammock out of something heavier than sil?

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    The bulk was the one of the main reasons I made the underquilt in the first place (aside from lucking into some $1.yd 1.1 oz nylon and already having the down). Packing that sea kayak for a week took up every cubic inch of space.

    Backpacking - meh. A tiny pack is fine and all, but I'm ambivalent about it to be honest. My pack with pads and such is still smaller than most out on the AT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Swank View Post
    Peter Pan,

    How much weight do you save by going to an underquilt instead of a 1/4" pad? I think even with a full lenght 1/4" pad and a half lenght 1/4" pad to augment for the shoulder seasons you're still looking at about 16 oz. Below 35 degrees I want the kitchen sink, but for late spring-early fall I want the lightest thing I can get for the comfort.
    Johnny,

    Glad that your river trip went well.

    Late Spring - early Fall, 40+, sew thru quilts with 800+ down should be well under 16 oz and pack to the approximate size of a nalgene bottle...

    Kitchen sinks are interesting...I like warmth too...And while the pad is a low cost way to add warmth it is costly in bulk, fit issue and for some, the sweat issues.....

    Alternatively, simply doubling up summer quilts will accomplish the same thing for less bulk and better comfort... Last weekend we were out between Jennings Creek and Daleville on the AT ... Forcast was for Rain and temp drops to 35 Saturday... We knew 20s were a real possibility, so we prepared for 10s.... The temp did drop to low 30s, we were in a hollow by Curry Creek, 1-2 inches of rain fell... I was in a JRB Four Season Set, Nest and NS on the bottom... Smee was in Nest with Weather Shield on the bottom and Old Rag Mtn Top quilt... a third hiking partner ( first time hammocker) was in two year old Four Season Set... We were all warm and toasty....Smee was in BVDs only, I wore BVD and a light fleece top only, and the new guy had silk weight patagonias and a skull cap on... note, no socks and jacket pillows served as head cover also....Smee's back up Stealth quilt went unused, as did all of our butt pads, as did all of camp insulated clothing, as did our rain gear...Full out, all three packs ran between 19-23 pounds each at the start for three days and all were in the 2200 cu in range.... Just another alternative.

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