Ontario Hang - Aug 20-22 2010, Bon Echo Provincial Park

**entropy** · 07-22-2010, 13:02

Originally Posted by sk8rs_dad

Put me down for 2, my son and I (what would a sk8rs_dad be without a sk8r

) I sure hope we don't have to go to ground on hammock hangout. I haven't slept on the ground in years.

I'm coming from Ottawa and should have room for another couple of people.

Oh, excellent. You are able to come after all

Does the offer still stand for a Kingston pickup?

**sk8rs_dad** · 07-22-2010, 13:18

Originally Posted by entropy

Oh, excellent. You are able to come after all

Does the offer still stand for a Kingston pickup?

I didn't realize you were in Kingston. I thought you were closer to Ottawa. Going via Kingston is a 130km detour. Is it possible to meet up anywhere closer to Hwy 7?

**Chard** · 07-22-2010, 13:33

entropy/sk8rs_dad

I expect to be driving up from Toronto, so if I do, it'd make more sense if I just scooted over to pick up entropy on my way up.

Comments?

**entropy** · 07-22-2010, 15:23

Originally Posted by sk8rs_dad

I didn't realize you were in Kingston. I thought you were closer to Ottawa. Going via Kingston is a 130km detour. Is it possible to meet up anywhere closer to Hwy 7?

Ack.

I had to check a map. You are correct (stupid ontario geography...)

**entropy** · 07-22-2010, 15:34

Originally Posted by chardpp

entropy/sk8rs_dad

I expect to be driving up from Toronto, so if I do, it'd make more sense if I just scooted over to pick up entropy on my way up.

Comments?

Actually is a worse detour from your direction... TO to Bon Echo is 250km. TO to Kingston to Bon Echo is 380.

I could meet you at Belleville though.

**Chard** · 07-22-2010, 16:11

Hey entropy

A Napanee/Belleville option definitely sounds better..

Detouring through Kingston on an Ottawa-Bon Echo (190km) trip would add another 120km.
Detouring through Kingston from an Toronto-Hwy7-Bon Echo (260km) trip would add another 100km.
Slowing down with an open door as I pass Belleville or Napanee on an Toronto-401-Bon Echo (260km) trip would add another 30km.

**entropy** · 07-22-2010, 19:31

Originally Posted by chardpp

Hey entropy

A Napanee/Belleville option definitely sounds better..

Detouring through Kingston on an Ottawa-Bon Echo (190km) trip would add another 120km.
Detouring through Kingston from an Toronto-Hwy7-Bon Echo (260km) trip would add another 100km.
Slowing down with an open door as I pass Belleville or Napanee on an Toronto-401-Bon Echo (260km) trip would add another 30km.

Napanee would be perfect actually. My girlfriend is not thrilled with the thought of driving on the 401, but Napanee is a quick drive along the lake and would cut all the backtracking. It apparently adds 8km over Bellville, which is probably where you would have turned north anyway.

**BrianWillan** · 07-23-2010, 10:51

So look like we are up to 6 people now. We are getting there slow but sure.

I am really looking forward to this.

Cheers

Brian

**vgnbkr** · 07-25-2010, 23:41

Hi Guys,

Something to keep in mind...

2 years ago I called an Ontario Park (Algonquin I think) and asked about hammocks, indicating that it was a hammock with a tarp overtop that I would sleep in. I was told that hammocks do not count as shelters, of which there can only be 3 per site.

I was in Algonquin over the weekend. Apparently Algonquin now views hammocks as shelters. That means you can only have 3 hammocks per site.

So in Algonquin you can now put 3 10 person tents, plus another tent for eating and that is fine, but if you put 4 hammocks up you get a fine - I think he said it was a $500 fine.

Not sure about other parks. I'm going to call Killarney tomorrow.

PS - The warden said they also don't care what Ontario Parks says. Even if Ontario Parks says hammocks don't count, Algonquin will fine you anyways. Support your local petty beaurocracy!

**Bubba** · 07-26-2010, 00:17

Originally Posted by vgnbkr

Hi Guys,

Something to keep in mind...

2 years ago I called an Ontario Park (Algonquin I think) and asked about hammocks, indicating that it was a hammock with a tarp overtop that I would sleep in. I was told that hammocks do not count as shelters, of which there can only be 3 per site.

I was in Algonquin over the weekend. Apparently Algonquin now views hammocks as shelters. That means you can only have 3 hammocks per site.

So in Algonquin you can now put 3 10 person tents, plus another tent for eating and that is fine, but if you put 4 hammocks up you get a fine - I think he said it was a $500 fine.

Not sure about other parks. I'm going to call Killarney tomorrow.

PS - The warden said they also don't care what Ontario Parks says. Even if Ontario Parks says hammocks don't count, Algonquin will fine you anyways. Support your local petty beaurocracy!

That kind of sucks. Although I don't think I have never seen a ranger or warden on a backcountry trail when I have been out there.