I pretty much exclusively hammock camp currently but I want to have practice with a ground setup for future trips out west. I don't want to spend the money on a new shelter when I already have a WB thunderfly and an HG standard tarp, so instead I am looking into how to pitch those for ground use. Can either of those feasibly be pitched with trekking poles for a ground shelter? and if so do y'all have any tips for a new tarp/ground camper?