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    To match my new 0 degree underquilt, should I get a sleeping bag or a top quilt?

    I am buying a 0 degree chameleon zip on underquilt for my chameleon hammock. I already have a summer 40 degree UQ TQ setup which i cant bring below 50 degrees comfortably.

    i want to use the new 0 degree UQ for any trips i do under 50 degrees. Lowest will be probably 20-30 degrees.

    The question:
    should i buy a zero degree sleeping bag for 20-30 degree nights which i can also use when i use my tent occasionaly, or buy a zero degree top quilt and a down hood?

    top quilts even the wide ones still have drafts and in a 20 degree night it may be better to have a bag.

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    From your post it sounds like you are leaning toward the sleeping bag.
    From several of your posts you sound to me like a cold sleeper.
    Hard to tell another person what to get.
    Go with your gut and get what you think will keep you the warmest.
    Shug

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    top quilts even the wide ones still have drafts and in a 20 degree night it may be better to have a bag.
    Sounds like you answered your own question.

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    The downside, of course, is that sleeping bags aren't the most comfortable option for hammocking...

    TQs with fasteners for pads for ground use aren't perfect, but they're pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    From your post it sounds like you are leaning toward the sleeping bag.
    From several of your posts you sound to me like a cold sleeper.
    Hard to tell another person what to get.
    Go with your gut and get what you think will keep you the warmest.
    Shug

    I want to get a top quilt and be able to make it also work with a pad without freezing my ***

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    I don't have one, but maybe take a look at the Warbonnet Diamondback with the side elastics? I dunno if it's a gimmick or if it really works. Maybe there are some posts that discuss, or some users can chime in. IIRC, I think Shug has one that's talked about in his vidoes.

    https://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/pr...uilt-0-degree/

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    At the expense of weight and bulk to achieve the utmost in comfort and warmth.
    Two 0-deg F synthetic rectangle extra-long and extra-wide sleeping bags.

    The two DIY Tablecloth hammocks are adjusted so that the bottom hammock is still able to retain loft in its bag. The top bag is fully opened and used as a comforter, with the legs inserted in the footbox.

    The hammocks are 90-inches wide for perspective... No cold spots.

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    How much does it weight you ask?

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    I've often used a rectangular sleeping bag as a TQ. Much more user-friendly than a mummy bag and wider when fully open. You can zip the bottom up a bit to get a footbox of sorts. I haven't been troubled by the zipper edges. Not quite a TQ, but not bad.

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    The sleeping bag will be warmer but a little fussier getting in to and out of with a hammock. One idea is you get into the bag while standing next to the hammock, then sit in the hammock and bring your legs in. It sort of depends on your size. The Hammock Gear Wide option 20° TQ leaves me swimming in down comfort - no gaps - when I'm in a hammock. Its purpose is to provide more "tuck-in" sides if I have to go to ground.

    But honestly, if I was sure I'd be on the ground in the winter, I'd most like bring a sleeping bag.

    In my comfort experience, the first is a hammock. Second is sleeping on snow (with an adequate pad of course) because the snow contours to my body. Last is sleeping on the hard ground.

    As far as temperature, I like a 10° cushion between the quilt rating and the expected temperature. But most vendor offerings stop at 0°. So if I was to plan to sleep at that temperature, I'd have to use supplemental gear - like a full sock or at least a UQP, and maybe a pad in a double layer (DL) hammock. Or perhaps stack (double up) quilts. When It gets that cold, I'd give serious thought to a snow shelter - like an igloo. If I were hanging. I'd use the snow to build a wall as a windbreak.

    Note that I'm talking about 0° F.

    0° C is 32° F which would be almost summer around here. I'm guessing Shug, in Minnesota, 32°F would be in shorts and a Tee-shirt weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elionoxa View Post
    I want to get a top quilt and be able to make it also work with a pad without freezing my ***
    Tuck it well. Tighten neck pull. Get a draft collar. Practice and learn it. The Diamondback has a nice draft collar and rigs for pad.

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