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    Not entirely comfortable - What to try next?

    So I’ve had an 11ft Chameleon in Hexon 1.0 for about 4-5 months, and I’ve set it up about 20x. I’m not entirely happy with how comfortable I can get in it - Currently I prefer sleeping on the ground on my Ether Lite XT pad.

    I feel that the Chameleon maybe has too much sag, the ridgeline is too short, the fabric is too stretchy, or it’s not wide enough (or some combination of all these things). I feel like my butt sinks too much when I try to lay flat, and that my head is propped up too much along the side ridge of the fabric (yes I have tried laying on all different kinds of diagonals and extremes). The Chameleon often feels most comfortable when the ridgeline is guitar string tight.

    At home, I am a firm mattress lover and mostly a back sleeper. The biggest thing is that I hate how the Chameleon props my head up no matter what angle I lay at. I know a bridge hammock would help this a lot, but I am concerned about introducing shoulder squeeze into the equation, and would like to try to stick with the simplicity of gathered-end hammocks for now. I’m mostly looking for something to emulate the firm flat lay of the ground, when there’s no flat ground to sleep on.

    Currently I’m looking at trying a Blackbird, Blackbird XLC, and DreamHammock Sparrow, as those are all highly recommended. Not sure if any of these would solve the issue though.

    Thoughts?

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    I should add that I am 5’8, 150 lbs. Fairly slim with wide shoulders.

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    If you're using the chameleon netless you could try an adjustable ridgeline. That would let you play w/ the sag amount w/o having to spend a lot of coin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowTech View Post
    If you're using the chameleon netless you could try an adjustable ridgeline. That would let you play w/ the sag amount w/o having to spend a lot of coin.

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    I’ve been thinking about getting an adjustable ridgeline to fiddle with for this reason. Wouldn’t removing the bugnet add yet another variable though? I feel that the bugnet/zipper is contributing to the overall experience.

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    The bugnet and the ridge line should be separate systems.

    This is related to the adjustable ridge line,

    I am not sure why this would not be more variables than you want to deal with. At least more variables than I want to deal with. I am happy to keep the ridge line at the manufacturers length until a I know something that makes me believe that is not correct. Though it is easy to shorten with ‘loops’ if one really feels the need.

    The ridge line also keeps the bugnet out of your face.

    But in theory it is there to improve your lay.
    Last edited by Sean McC; 11-08-2022 at 00:56.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean McC View Post
    The bugnet and the ridge line should be separate systems.

    This is related to the adjustable ridge line,

    I am not sure why this would not be more variables than you want to deal with. At least more variables than I want to deal with. I am happy to keep the ridge line at the manufacturers length until a I know something that makes me believe that is not correct. Though it is easy to shorten with ‘loops’ if one really feels the need.

    The ridge line also keeps the bugnet out of your face.

    But in theory it is there to improve your lay.
    I was under the impression that since the Chameleon bugnet was designed to work with the fixed length ridgeline provided, that it would be wise to remove the bugnet before making changes to ridgeline length (so as not to rip or damage the bugnet).

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    Have you played with hanging the foot end higher than the head end, or vice versa? A foot and a half would not be too much. I like my feet higher because if not, I tend to slide toward my feet otherwise and I get more of a calf ridge. But if you want your head not to be propped up, then maybe the opposite for you?

    Also, you can definitely play with the length of the ridge line. A couple inches can make a big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPhun View Post
    Have you played with hanging the foot end higher than the head end, or vice versa? A foot and a half would not be too much. I like my feet higher because if not, I tend to slide toward my feet otherwise and I get more of a calf ridge. But if you want your head not to be propped up, then maybe the opposite for you?

    Also, you can definitely play with the length of the ridge line. A couple inches can make a big difference.
    I’ve fiddled a lot with raising the foot end higher to various degrees, but I haven’t tried raising the head end yet. Always seemed a bit taboo, but it’s certainly something I’ll have to try. Thanks!

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    I’m comfortable in 1.6 Hexon wide hammock 12x6
    YMMV Your mileage may vary
    Possibly reduce width from 72 inches to 66 inches
    A fixed hammock ridgeline of 83% of 12 feet
    About a ten foot fixed hammock ridgeline

    Sometimes a sweatshirt or small pillow can be placed behind knees, to combat knee hyperextension.

    Good luck reaching hammock nirvana

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Grappler View Post
    I’m comfortable in 1.6 Hexon wide hammock 12x6
    YMMV Your mileage may vary
    Possibly reduce width from 72 inches to 66 inches
    A fixed hammock ridgeline of 83% of 12 feet
    About a ten foot fixed hammock ridgeline

    Sometimes a sweatshirt or small pillow can be placed behind knees, to combat knee hyperextension.

    Good luck reaching hammock nirvana
    I haven’t tried using any pillows for my knees/legs yet, as I don’t experience any pain there, but that could maybe help push me to some more comfortable positions.

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