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    And yes, original Blackbird. Iím in the vertically challenged category. Maybe I can convince Brandon to make something to help us short guys get out suspension higher up. Iíve been cutting a stick with a Y on the end. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Of Wolf and Man View Post
    And yes, original Blackbird. Iím in the vertically challenged category. Maybe I can convince Brandon to make something to help us short guys get out suspension higher up. Iíve been cutting a stick with a Y on the end. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TominMN View Post
    Now if those were UL carbon fiber, maybe lol.


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    Contact Dutchware. If not carbon fiber, maybe titanium.
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    I couldn't get this thread out of my head. Just wondering if the slack along the edges could actually allow a draft that could affect performance(?) A Wooki is pretty much an UQP with insulation sewn to it and I happen to think that's a brilliant idea! But I've also noticed that a lot of UQPs incorporate what's essentially a Knotty Mod to minimize drafts. Would that make a Wooki even better or doesn't it matter?

    Poking around on the DIY forum, I noticed there have been a couple of threads about this very subject. So this is hardly an original idea.
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    See my post #4 in this thread: https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...on-a-Chameleon
    The main topic there is adapting a regular Wookie (designed for the 10' WB original Blackbird) to an 11' DWG Chameleon.

    I have ditched all my traditional suspension underquilts for Wookies, but have at times experienced a gap in Wookie coverage under my outside shoulder. My no-sew solution was to run some shockcord over the ridgeline from the sewn loop of the Wookie's middle to a binder clip. Works pretty well, if a bit inelegant.

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    https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...=1#post2047189

    Link to a hutzelbein post that addresses one way to stop the floppy shoulder bit. I personally haven't found it to affect performance until you're within a few degrees of the UQ rating, but at those temperatures I'm bringing an UQP anyways. The warbonnet UQP pulls that flop up against your shoulder (albeit loosely).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hang Williams View Post

    Link to a hutzelbein post that addresses one way to stop the floppy shoulder bit. I personally haven't found it to affect performance until you're within a few degrees of the UQ rating, but at those temperatures I'm bringing an UQP anyways. The warbonnet UQP pulls that flop up against your shoulder (albeit loosely).
    I have to say that the shock cord seems like a more elegant approach than a "rubber band", despite the necessary knots. Anyone know what size shock cord? (hint, hint hutzelbein...)

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    I would add one note about adding one own shock cord or other hardware changes.

    I always found the tiny carabiner on the foot end kind of weird. But on a recent rip I managed to try to climb only into the UQ and missed the hammock itself when I got up in the middle of the night. Or actually I did climb into the UQ. And it dropped me on the ground. I had though at first my suspension had failed but it was the little carabiner that broke. I was able to just loop the rubber band over the whip and went back to sleep. But that little carabiner from what I can tell is a pre designed failure point. I would not change it as had it not failed it would have damaged something that would be harder to fix. I have since replaced it with another fairly weak carabiner.

    from what I can tell, everything in that hammock set up XLC/Wooki is there for a purpose and I would not mess with it.

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    All this talk about adjustment to the ends, my only issue is one side won't snug up to my shoulder.

    I sleep head left feet right in an original Blackbird. I have a 10* Diamond Back (which I love) and a 10* Wookie. The side under my left shoulder sags down and leaves a cold spot.

    I have fiddled with the ends, but nothing fixes it. I am going through my winter set ups and when I get to the Wookie, I might sew in a pcs of elastic (actually pin it in first) and see if that fixes it. I thought about a pcs of shock cord, but that will interfear with entering/exiting the hammock.


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