Rainfly Guylines

**TominMN** · 09-14-2022, 14:42

If you keep your guylines attached to the rainfly and use small cordage (1 mm to 2.5 mm), these things are pretty slick. Very small, very light weight (0.02 oz / 0.7 g), and super easy to adjust.

Clamcleat CL266 Mini Line-Lok

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I've not tried them with Lash-It/Zing-It. I know Zpacks has them (Micro Lineloc). Probably others as well.

**BlazeyJ** · 09-14-2022, 15:05

I also highly recommend these. Just installed them on my minifly this year and they make tarp setup that much easier. Just when I thought my staking process couldn’t get any easier/faster.

I’m not sure if it’s the safest method, but I just put the end of the loop directly around my MSR mini groundhog stakes and then hammer down… no knots or hitches needed

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**brohawk** · 09-14-2022, 19:26

I use Dutches V Line locks and they work great. I run 1.3mm line on them and I believe they go down to 1mm. Super light and easy to adjust.

**rhjanes** · 09-14-2022, 20:49

I use these on several hammocks.
Another trick/tip. I use about 8 inches of shock cord on these making a loop. Then larks head that to the guy line pull out. Run the line then out from the lock to the stake with just a loop at the stack. The advantage is now the clamclete is just up next to your tarp. So in the pouring rain, you can adjust/tighten from under your tarp. Might keep you a bit drier.

**CVKealey** · 09-15-2022, 03:59

Originally Posted by brohawk

I use Dutches V Line locks and they work great. I run 1.3mm line on them and I believe they go down to 1mm. Super light and easy to adjust.

I've been using these as well with Atwood Micro cord (1.18 mm) and have been very happy with them. One seems to slip a bit, but the others hold fine and they're very easy to adjust.

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**TominMN** · 09-15-2022, 05:57

Originally Posted by brohawk

I use Dutches V Line locks and they work great. I run 1.3mm line on them and I believe they go down to 1mm. Super light and easy to adjust.

I agree that they're a really good sew-on option.

**TominMN** · 09-15-2022, 05:58

Originally Posted by rhjanes

I use these on several hammocks.
Another trick/tip. I use about 8 inches of shock cord on these making a loop. Then larks head that to the guy line pull out. Run the line then out from the lock to the stake with just a loop at the stack. The advantage is now the clamclete is just up next to your tarp. So in the pouring rain, you can adjust/tighten from under your tarp. Might keep you a bit drier.

Yup, they certainly can be rigged to tension from either end of the guyline.

**iceman857** · 09-15-2022, 08:23

Has anyone experienced these losing grip in a rainstorm? I imagine the tolerances between the cordage and the holes matters more than other solutions; just want to see if my assumptions are true.

**rhjanes** · 09-15-2022, 09:06

Originally Posted by iceman857

Has anyone experienced these losing grip in a rainstorm? I imagine the tolerances between the cordage and the holes matters more than other solutions; just want to see if my assumptions are true.

If rain is possible, I just do an extra check tug on each line, making sure to tug it into the locked position.

**TominMN** · 09-15-2022, 10:22

Originally Posted by iceman857

Has anyone experienced these losing grip in a rainstorm? I imagine the tolerances between the cordage and the holes matters more than other solutions; just want to see if my assumptions are true.

The grip is a "toothed" V-groove, so tolerances aren't really an issue here. These pieces of hardware are "borrowed" from marine use, where, in various sizes, they are typically used to manage rigging lines. Those holes are really screw holes used for mounting. These smallest ones adapt well for rainfly guylines for both hammocks and tents.