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    all secure in sector 7 Shug's Avatar
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    Personally I find stacking UQs easier than putting two TQs together. Getting in 2 nestled TQs is cumbersome for me.

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    Upgrade top or bottom first?

    Here to confirm the indisputably correct sequence:

    the pad you already have (lasts approximately 1 night)
    the bag you already have (truthfully keep as long as you like)
    20 UQ
    20 TQ
    0 UQ
    40 synthetic TQ (for summer or for winter as overbag over the 20 TQ)
    40 UQ when you’re too far gone down the rabbit hole


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    Last edited by possum daddy; 09-03-2022 at 17:15.

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    Senior Member cmoulder's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by possum daddy View Post
    Here to confirm the indisputably correct sequence:

    the pad you already have (lasts approximately 1 night)
    the bag you already have (truthfully keep as long as you like)
    20 UQ
    20 TQ
    0 UQ
    40 synthetic TQ (for summer or for winter as overbag over the 20 TQ)
    40 UQ when you’re too far gone down the rabbit hole


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    Lol, that and the formula for the correct number of quilts, which is N+1.
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    Upgrade top or bottom first?

    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    Lol, that and the formula for the correct number of quilts, which is N+1.
    Absolutely. The math gets very strange after you go through the initial sequence. The volume of your home quilt storage starts skyrocketing while the volume of your pack storage space goes down goes down at a much smaller pace. Perfectly good 7d quilts get burned as ultralight fire starter to make room for 6.5d quilts… you justify losing a few toes to frostbite by rationalizing you saved 16 grams in socks that trip and for next trip you can order custom quilts that are two inches shorter now that you don’t have toes…


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    Just one more thought:

    If a Wooki is in your future, be sure that you're entirely pleased with the 10' length of that original BB. You might want to try out a XLC and determine if you want to move to 11'. That could make a big difference re which Wooki to buy.

    That November hang might be an opportunity to do a test drive.

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    Senior Member cmoulder's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by possum daddy View Post
    Absolutely. The math gets very strange after you go through the initial sequence. The volume of your home quilt storage starts skyrocketing while the volume of your pack storage space goes down goes down at a much smaller pace. Perfectly good 7d quilts get burned as ultralight fire starter to make room for 6.5d quilts… you justify losing a few toes to frostbite by rationalizing you saved 16 grams in socks that trip and for next trip you can order custom quilts that are two inches shorter now that you don’t have toes…


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    LOL... well so far I've still got all the little piggies!
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    I finally bought a Hammock Gear Incubator 20°F (-5°C) underquilt last year. What a world of versatility! Very easy to vent it by loosening primary suspension so that it hangs relaxed on the hammock, or even by opening draft collars more.
    And when it's colder, of course, you just adjust everything tighter for a more snug fit around the hammock.

    I haven't tried layering two UQs together for higher insulative capacity in cold weather, but I imagine that they would stay in place better than a person shifting around at night under two TQs.
    But investing in the one that is suitable for the temperatures in which you are going to find yourself seems much simpler, and also fulfils the n+1 mantra (and more $$).

    I have also heard of people being unhappy with their Enlightened Equipment UQ. I haven't used one, so I am not sure what the issue is for them.

    Plenty of those content with the Wooki and Incubator UQs, though. Myself included!

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    I have some older EE Revolt UQs and they are merely adequate, although I'd recommend our other 'hammock-centric' vendors for anyone looking for a UQ today.

    With the big caveat that I've never used one, I am not at all thrilled with the 'uprising' style of suspension for the new-ish Revolt V2, although the vertical down baffles are far better than the Karo baffles on mine.
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    I go UQ first, I've had a lot of summer nights where I only use my UQ. I can dress warmer or later on top easier. Depends on how you camp I guess. But Under is where my my warmth comes from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    I have some older EE Revolt UQs and they are merely adequate, although I'd recommend our other 'hammock-centric' vendors for anyone looking for a UQ today.

    With the big caveat that I've never used one, I am not at all thrilled with the 'uprising' style of suspension for the new-ish Revolt V2, although the vertical down baffles are far better than the Karo baffles on mine.
    Haven’t looked very hard, but Im not sure who besides EE offers 7d UQ. At first glance Trailheadz will do 7d inner


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