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    Very large tarp advice

    I recently bougth a tarp bugnet combo from nemo equipment ( the nemo bug out 12x12 for reference) for a camping trip in northern canada with my toddler. i liked the product because it is very large 12x12' and we had plenty of room to play with the kid and it worked great... until it rained, they advertise the product as rain resistant but it is not. well they says that rain resistant is not meant to be waterproof when i called to complaind but this is misleading AF. i mean this tarp could have been made of untreated coton and it would not have worst.

    i am sad because i realy liked the form farctor of this product and to my knoledge nobody is selling that on the market. not as large anyway.

    so i im planning a diy projet to replace this one and im wondering if anyone here had advices and experience to share on doing a very large tarp like this.
    i noticed that when this tarp got wet it became very hard to pitch decently (impossible in fact) and began to sag along the ridge line. is it because of the fabric? is using poly indtead of nylon would help me there.
    also it became apparent that the large size of the tarp require huge tension in the tie and i started to wonder if its even a good to do this because i would end up tearing the fabric just by pitching it. mauybe pitching it from the middle instead of the corner would help that.? any advice on a fabric to use or shape to consider?
    also this product is sewn with a specific triagular pattern, i figure it is for cost optimisation be maybe not. and sice im going to have to join more that 2 pieces of fabric here i wonder if there is a better way to do it?

    also i realise that this will not be great in strong winds but i can live with that.

    A know its a lot of question and also a bit unclear but i would like any help i can get to plan this ahead.

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    According to the NEMO website, the canopy actually IS poly!

    I'm curious: was the leakage actually occurring mid-fabric or is it possible that it was only leaking along the seams?

    NEMO has a reputation for making high-quality stuff and they have always been good about backing up their products. Is it possible that all that is needed is a bunch of seam sealing?
    Last edited by TominMN; 08-18-2022 at 13:16.

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    The specs for the material say 75D PeU Polyester (1500 mm). 1500mm is generally considered waterproof: https://www.msrgear.com/blog/tent-fa...proof-ratings/

    Looking at Nemo website pics, there are seams all over it...so like Tom mentioned is it leaking along those seams? If that's the case, I'd seam seal it and try it out again before going the DIY route.

    Good luck!

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    Eureka Canada have a similar tarp (in two sizes) with attached bugnet, the nobugzone.
    https://eurekatentscanada.com/produc...5?s=section_15
    I have their previous version (tarp with clip-on bugnet). It's seams are tape sealed & it doesn’t leak; I know, because I’ve slept under it when it’s rained. It also gets good reviews on vendor’s sites (Amazon & outdoor equipment vendors).

    https://www.amazon.com/Eureka-NoBugZ...r&pageNumber=1

    IMG_2162.jpg

    It has a central loop that you can clip a continuous ridge line to

    Youtube of nobugzone in the rain:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srxxvhC-D68
    Last edited by HarveyM; 08-18-2022 at 16:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyM View Post
    Eureka Canada have a similar tarp (in two sizes) with attached bugnet, the nobugzone.
    https://eurekatentscanada.com/produc...5?s=section_15
    I have their previous version, (tarp with clip-on bugnet) and it doesn’t leak. I know, because I’ve slept in it when it’s rained. It also gets good reviews on vendor’s sites (Amazon & outdoor equipment vendors).

    https://www.amazon.com/Eureka-NoBugZ...r&pageNumber=1

    IMG_2162.jpg

    It has a central loop that you can clip a continuous ridge line to
    Cool tarp......... but what's under the bike cover?

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    It's 'just' a Honda NC750x. It's just enough without getting me in trouble .

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    it was occuring mid- fabric. and yea they have a good reputation and it wasnt cheap. but the store told me that they if they replaced it with the same thing i would have the same problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by TominMN View Post
    According to the NEMO website, the canopy actually IS poly!

    I'm curious: was the leakage actually occurring mid-fabric or is it possible that it was only leaking along the seams?

    NEMO has a reputation for making high-quality stuff and they have always been good about backing up their products. Is it possible that all that is needed is a bunch of seam sealing?
    it was occuring mid- fabric. and yea they have a good reputation and it wasnt cheap. but the store told me that they if they replaced it with the same thing i would have the same problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyM View Post
    Eureka Canada have a similar tarp (in two sizes) with attached bugnet, the nobugzone.
    https://eurekatentscanada.com/produc...5?s=section_15
    I have their previous version (tarp with clip-on bugnet). It's seams are tape sealed & it doesn’t leak; I know, because I’ve slept under it when it’s rained. It also gets good reviews on vendor’s sites (Amazon & outdoor equipment vendors).

    https://www.amazon.com/Eureka-NoBugZ...r&pageNumber=1

    IMG_2162.jpg

    It has a central loop that you can clip a continuous ridge line to

    Youtube of nobugzone in the rain:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srxxvhC-D68
    i saw3 those, but they are much smaller. i realy like the fact that i can have the picknik table the coller two chair and still enough space to play with my toddler

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    That is a drag something like that leaked. But I've been caught in that water resistant VS waterproof shuck before. One of my EZ-Ups is only water resistant and will leak eventually. One I had before was waterproof. The companies never make it very plain.
    Maybe something like spraying it or soaking in waterproofer will save you. Nikwax makes one. https://www.sportsmans.com/clothing-...ns%20-%20Belts

    Might try that before taking on such a big sewing project.
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