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    SlingLite (by Western Mountaineering) UQ

    Having recently bought a Western Mountaineering sleeping bag, I'm curious about this UQ.

    I can't find many reviews, but one person mentioned that it's a 3/4 length - I had it in mind that it was full-length, but I'm not really sure.

    Also, someone said it's not wide (or the wrong shape) to work with an asymmetric lay - does it look like that's the case?

    I'm wondering if anyone has seen or used one, and if so does it appear to be a good UQ?

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    WM gear is very high quality. I've owned a couple of bags over the years, including a -25°F Puma sleeping bag, and they're definitely top shelf regards to materials and construction, and I'm sure this quilt is the same.

    That said, looking at the photos and specs on the website I don't think this quite ready for prime time. With a 26" width at the head and foot and middle girth of only 45", it seems the designer is not aware of proper diagonal sleep position and assumes people sleep in a banana position. No way in Hades this shape or size is going to work for diagonal. At 74" in length it is definitely full length for me, at 5'8", but of course for others that depends...

    It also has shock cord only on the ends, with the quilt sides held in position by by simple hooks. How would this work for an integrated net or top cover?

    For a UQ, I would stick with our longtime hammock-specialist vendors for this item.

    Sorry, this doesn't "cut it"....

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    Thanks very much. I suspected it might not be ideal from the few comments I'd come across, but wasn't exactly sure why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deejayen View Post
    Thanks very much. I suspected it might not be ideal from the few comments I'd come across, but wasn't exactly sure why.
    You're welcome and no doubt others will find more nits to pick but those are major non-starters, not mere nits!
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    Hard to believe that WM brought something like that to market!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TominMN View Post
    Hard to believe that WM brought something like that to market!
    The more you ponder it the astonishing-er it gets.

    The designer clearly hadn't even the most rudimentary knowledge of modern camping hammocks. You'd think they would do a *little* research on what's 'out there' — and why it is the way it is — before heading to the design program. That it got all the way to manufacturing and distribution is truly mind-boggling.
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    deejayen - to address your concern about length and shape ... Full length or ¾ length sort of depends on YOUR length. A ¾ length TQ for me is almost full length (it’s a feature, not a bug). Also, the only concern I’d have with Asymmetrical vs Symmetrical is if I were using a specialized UQ like a Wookie. I only consider “full length” if I’m camping in the winter 20’s. You can usually adjust the end cinching to accommodate the lie you prefer.

    More of a concern would be if it has a differential cut. That means the bottom of the UQ is fuller that the top so the top of the UQ can be snugged up against the bottom of the hammock without compressing its loft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    The more you ponder it the astonishing-er it gets.

    The designer clearly hadn't even the most rudimentary knowledge of modern camping hammocks. You'd think they would do a *little* research on what's 'out there' — and why it is the way it is — before heading to the design program. That it got all the way to manufacturing and distribution is truly mind-boggling.
    I just stumbled across this thread, but when it came out I decided to take a chance on it. I see what you're saying, just based on specs it seems like there's a lot wrong with it, but I now have hundreds of nights in this UQ and I absolutely love it, and bought a second one for others to use. It's not difficult to rig it up asymmetrically just with the shock cord. I generally don't use the side clips, but they've come in handy in a few situations. I've had it near freezing and been very comfortable in it, and it packs down really well.

    I was similarly skeptical but had enough confidence in WM based on bags and quilts of theirs I use a ton, and my dealer's a hammock guy and a straight shooter in terms of giving advice on what will or won't work, so it made sense to try.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm sure others will find different options that meet their needs better, and if they ever made one in microfiber (or even GWS) that was 6" longer with two more baffles of width I would be the first in line to buy it, but as an ultralight quilt I think it's amazingly good, to the point where it's what I usually grab even for car camping. It just works for me every time, from the low to mid 30s up to even well into the 70s where I know it'll dip into the mid 60s overnight and won't feel like waking up to deploy the UQ when it cools down.

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    Glad it's working for you but I stand by my comments.

    Where do you buy one? I looked at the usual online retailers and couldn't find any. Either they're selling like hotcakes or WM has taken a couple of steps back to improve the design. Or maybe something else.
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    It’s often given advice to cinch up the UQ to help with CBS.
    I have several uq’s with tabs/loops at the mid-point to allow a shockcord to go over the hammock ridge line. Shug himself has suggested it for years. Folks have been anchoring the shoulder area with some kind of system to keep the quilt in place.
    IMO, Western solved an issue of UQ sag with the clips. Dutch has quilt clips. Some folks use an office binder clip. Heck, I’ve seen miniature magnets sewn into quilts with matching magnets in the hem of the hammock.

    And of course the sewn on quilt.
    Kudos to Western Mountain for trying to get in the hammock game.
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