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    Quote Originally Posted by supermatt9 View Post
    I've been hammocking in a symmetrical one wind 11 ft hammock. It's got a small hole in it so I'm looking to upgrade and was thinking about the blackbird xlc.

    Here's my dilemna. I toss and turn a lot when I sleep and sometimes I sleep on my right side and other times I sleep on my left (often times I do both throughout the same night). When on my side in my one wind, I prefer to sleep facing out, rather than facing in. Which means that I THINK I need a symmetrical hammock so that I have the freedom to sleep in any direction I choose and can switch sides of my hammock in the middle of the night.

    However, I've never tried an asymmetrical hammock.

    What are your thoughts on the issue? Given my circumstances could I get an asymetrical or should I stick with symmetrical?

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    Based on this description I'd say stick with symmetrical.

    Personally, I sleep head right and find that the other direction feels weird and uncomfortable.

    People's preferences vary wildly, so go with what works for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermatt9 View Post
    I've been hammocking in a symmetrical one wind 11 ft hammock. It's got a small hole in it so I'm looking to upgrade and was thinking about the blackbird xlc.

    Here's my dilemna. I toss and turn a lot when I sleep and sometimes I sleep on my right side and other times I sleep on my left (often times I do both throughout the same night). When on my side in my one wind, I prefer to sleep facing out, rather than facing in. Which means that I THINK I need a symmetrical hammock so that I have the freedom to sleep in any direction I choose and can switch sides of my hammock in the middle of the night.

    However, I've never tried an asymmetrical hammock.

    What are your thoughts on the issue? Given my circumstances could I get an asymetrical or should I stick with symmetrical?

    Thanks.

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    I'm not an expert but I think the term assymetrical refers to the cut/design of the bugnet. If you unzip the bug net off the XLC, you have a simple, gathered end hammock. The hammock body/fabric is symmetrical about the ridge line. I toss and turn in my XLC. I'll start off head left, feet right, but I will often switch (I just neutral bias my underquilt). At o' dark thirty when I switch the opposite direction, I don't notice the spacing with the bugnet.

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    DH Sparrow, Chameleons, an assortment of 90* hammocks all symmetrical and although I have owned asyms I wouldn't even consider limiting my sleeping options with by owning another asym.

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    I also used to have a OneWind and flipped around a lot; I replaced it with a bridge, the Warbonnet Ridgerunner, which I love, and flip around all I want. But eventually for backpacking weight and volume purposes, I also went ahead and got a Warbonnet Blackbird, which is asym, and while I can deal with it for a few nights at a time, I gotta say, given a choice I'd prefer having a symmetrical again. Given your comments, I'd say you will likely be happier in a symmetrical; you can also get a TrailWinder UQ from Jared at Simply Light Designs which works like a Warbonnet Wookie UQ but is synthetic, and Jared can make it symmetrical for you if you want. So that would take all the fiddle factor out of the UQ issue, if you can deal with a little extra weight of symmetrical amounts of fill vs asym-- Jared's also started making add-on mods so you can get a lighter base quilt and add-on more fill for different seasons.

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    My wife can switch between head left and right in the middle of the night. I feel like I'm about to fall out of the hammock if I lay head right. To each their own.

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    An asymmetrical hammock is all about the attached bugnet. Different cuts allow for options around your head or your feet, which then makes it a hammock with distinct ends for head and feet, and therefore, asymmetrical. In general, the lay is not different, just not switchable.

    I like a netless hammock which is always symmetrical (with very few exceptions). Not to be confused with an asymmetrical hammock with the net unzipped and removed, which I found out affected how I laid in it (not the lay itself).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dakotaross View Post
    An asymmetrical hammock is all about the attached bugnet. Different cuts allow for options around your head or your feet, which then makes it a hammock with distinct ends for head and feet, and therefore, asymmetrical. ...
    Actually, most asym hammocks do not have distinct head and foot ends, just left vs right. I even suspect that you could attach a Blackbird net the opposite way and effectively swap ends. It would still have the same lay (unless you FLIP the net.)

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    One of the main reasons the WBBB and WBBB XL are so popular is that fact that they have that nice footbox which gives you an automatic asymmetrical lay. I have three and personally like them so much I don't think I could go back to a symmetrical. I have several symmetrical hammocks that just collect dust and I don't remember how many I have sold since getting a warbonnet. But as Shug would say, my opinion differing from yours does not mean yours is wrong (or something like that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakotaross View Post
    I like a netless hammock which is always symmetrical (with very few exceptions).
    I like a netless hammock as well. But around here between the mosquitos and the noseeums, the biting bug season is pretty long in the woods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean McC View Post
    I like a netless hammock as well. But around here between the mosquitos and the noseeums, the biting bug season is pretty long in the woods.
    Been using my netless SLD Treerunner a lot this spring and, before that, the milder winter days. But the bugs and temperature are really starting to build now so I'll be using something netted going forward, either Half-wit or Darien.
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