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    Of course, I'm very interested in the actual weight of the 0.9 Xenon.
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    Is the 1.1 and .9 a measure of thickness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ Peaks View Post
    Is the 1.1 and .9 a measure of thickness?
    Hey NJ Peaks - It's a measure of the weight per linear yard of material in ounces. So 1.1 is read as "1.1 ounces per yard of fabric". A lot of folks use it as a measure of weight capacity as well, which is why it may seem a little weird to use it in conversations about hammocks. Here's an example: https://ripstopbytheroll.zendesk.com...mparison-chart
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ Peaks View Post
    Is the 1.1 and .9 a measure of thickness?
    The unit refers to ounces per square yard.

    So you'd think that the ultralight would be ~19% lighter, or realistically, more like 17% when accounting for other materials.

    But calculating finished weight never seems to work out, similar to trailhead weight of a pack vs what's on a spreadsheet.
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    iceman857 thanks for the correction... per linear yard

    On second pass, Dutch lists it as per square yard...

    SpecsFabric / Thread
    • Material – Polyester
    • Fabric Width: 58-59″
    • Weight per sq yard 0.93 oz
    • Denier 15
    • Coating Siliconized
    • Finish na
    • Common uses Tarps, Tents, & Bivys, Stuff sacks


    • Black / 000
    • Coyote Brown / 672
    • Dark Olive / 3644


    And Dutch adds the caveat *All Specs are estimates and may vary from color to color and batch to batch.
    Last edited by cmoulder; 04-09-2022 at 06:42.
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    This morning I got the cordage rigged up for CRL and guy lines, Lawson Ironwire 2mm and prusiks for CRL, Zpacks 1.3mm reflective for the guy lines.

    I went to the local woods to pitch it for the first time, so naturally it rained. I got it all set up while the rain was nothing more than a sprinkle, and soon after that it was raining pretty hard. A small rumble of thunder mixed in there somewhere kinda scared my pooch. He hates thunder. But showers were coming and going in about 10-minute intervals, so I was able to fiddle with stuff a bit and then pack out without getting drenched.

    I really noticed the extra foot of width vs my regular DCF tarp... a little more coverage goes a long way.

    The bonded RL looks really solid and durable. At one point I pulled extra cord in between the prusiks so that the whole setup simulated a split ridge line, and the seam stayed flat and didn't bunch up like some tarps with split RL do. The material is indeed noticeably quieter than DCF when raindrops hit.

    The zig-zag fold-n-roll method I use for stowing works very well. Makes for quite a small package.

    I didn't get a chance to try the no-snakeskin method of retracting the tarp, but I'll do that next time.








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    Nice looking orange set-up. Yes...your pooch has those "Good Googley Moo" eyes!!!
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    I like the claim on the product page, "This tarp can't leak"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    Nice looking orange set-up. Yes...your pooch has those "Good Googley Moo" eyes!!!
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    And that was for just a little rumble way off in the distance. A couple of nights before he was absolutely petrified during a real storm... indoors at that!
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobonli View Post
    I like the claim on the product page, "This tarp can't leak"
    Yes, with no stitch holes it's definitely not leaking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    ...

    On second pass, Dutch lists it as per square yard...

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    Per square yard makes the most sense. Otherwise it would be comparing apples to oranges for different fabric widths.

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