Hi, everyone,
Just a simple question about the continuous loop I have both 8" and 15" loops does it matter which I use on my gather end hammock?
It's 11 feet long.
Hi, everyone,
Just a simple question about the continuous loop I have both 8" and 15" loops does it matter which I use on my gather end hammock?
It's 11 feet long.
Not really, so long as they have the right weight bearing qualities. Example, Amsteel 1/8 is 500 lbs and 7/64 is 300 lbs. I think most people prefer the shorter length so you have more options with shorter tree distances.
I think 300 lbs is way under a listed value of 1600 lbs rated load for 7/64th Amsteel. Of course that value is reduced as knots and sharp bends are introduced. But it would have to be reduced a lot to get down to 300 lbs. And esdosit didn’t mention any knots. Usually the wrap of a continuous loop is relatively gentle - more curved than sharp turns.
I agree with your point about using the shorter length. When I started out, I made my loops and dogbones too long. A six inch distance on each end is a foot total, and sometimes just a foot shorter makes the difference between to perfect candidate trees and, “Nope, too close together.” That said, I find it’s often the tarp, not the hammock that determines the acceptable tree distance.
Last edited by cougarmeat; 03-15-2022 at 18:34.
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I was quoting the ratings from the DW site: https://dutchwaregear.com/product/am...tinuous-loops/
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You also have to consider that each end is taking half the weight, so that is an even bigger safety margin. I like to keep them short in case I get caught with a short hang distance. Also, I use 1/8" and put the fat splice bury end sticking out. That way when I am using a becket hitch it is much easier to break the knot and release the becket.
If a hammock has about a 30* angle of hang,
then each end of hammock suspension will be holding your body weight
With flatter than 30* hang angles, then each end of your hammock suspension will be holding more than your body weight. With extremely flat hang angles, this can be your body weight in multiples.
I do use 1/8 amsteel and strong straps for my suspension. And sometimes my hammock ridgeline is spang tight (can’t be bent, with my hand, while I’m in hammock)
This also puts extra weight pulling on two trees. I always try to select stout trees.
Since my hammocks and tarps are long, the tree span is long. I’m short, and don’t reach over 6 to 7 feet up the tree. My hang angle is flatter than 30* but not too far off.
Somewhere there are charts and mathematical formulas that go into great and accurate detail.
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I also use 1/8 amsteel and I go up 6 feet works pretty good for me
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Phantom Grappler, that “chart” is the Hammock Hang Calculator: https://theultimatehang.com/hammock-hang-calculator/
I also don’t have much of a vertical reach. So I determine the highest I want to reach, then, using a 10 ft and 11 ft hammock length dimension - with a preferred 18” off the ground - I played with the calculator to determine the maximum useful distance for my desired maximum reach. Somewhere along that exercise, I realized it’s the tarp, not the hammock that usually sets the distance.
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