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    top quilt suggestions

    I'm new to hanging and don't have a top quilt yet. I am ready to buy one and I am looking at 2 in particular. Night time temps will range from 40 up to 70, so I'm looking for 1 that will work for that temp range. I don't mind kicking it off of me if it gets to warm. I like the prices of the JRB and they seem to have good reviews. So for my question, I am looking at 2 models :
    1- Shenandoa tall, $199 48"x86" 15oz or 2) Big Meadows tall, $209 56"x86" 17oz, I'm a big guy 6'3" 215 lbs sleeping in a WB BBXLC, Should I pay the extra $10 to get 8" more of width or is 48" wide plenty for a gathered end hammock?

    thx

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    If you're a side sleeper, or move a lot, I'd go with the wider one.

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    What FLTurtle said. I am smaller than you but move a lot. Wider is better.
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    I will offer my 2 cents worth, However i strongly suggest you call and talk to them ... ask them what they think you need, they designed and know the products and that IMO will be the best advice you get.

    When i called HG and talked with them, I was looking at the taller version and it was pointed out that although I am 6 feet, your head forms a lot of that height and typically the TQs go to the shoulders, making the taller version un necessary ..... and they were right.

    So give your vendor a call and get the best info, at the source.


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    If you aren't intending to go to ground and can dedicate a TQ for the hammock, then you can go a little narrower on width. Unless you are wide or long yourself or a really restless sleeper, you can certainly go with JRB's instruction. Talk with them before deciding.

    I have two JRB TQ's a Sierra Stealth and the Shenandoah UL. Very nice. The latter very light and less volume, but I still really like the SS. It just doesn't get the use it once did. I get to cheat on length. Only 5'6" and I can pull the regulars over my head.
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    st4hangin, unless you’ve experience with temperature rated gear and know what works for you, I wouldn’t rely on a 40° quilt to keep you warm at 40°. I’ve learned that I want a 10 degree margin. Also, for me, down has a wide upper comfort range. Like a quilt will be comfortable at much warmer temperatures and can be easily cooled/vented. That said, a 40° quilt might work for you at 40° if you add and underquilt protector (UQP). I am much smaller than you but find times when the WIDE Hammock Gear option is just the ticket. If I ever thought I’d have to go to ground on a couple of days of an adventure, I’d take it. If it were just one day, I’d put up with the inconvenience of a bit narrower standard cut. But it’s amazing how much “tuck in” that extra 5 inches adds. And the wide choice on your selections adds 4 inches to each side.

    If I were 6’3” I’d absolutely pay the extra $10f for that width. I have a friend that is 6’ 4”. He sees what I have and wants to copy me. I have to remind him that at 5’ 5”, we live in different worlds.
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    OP, what are you using for bottom insulation? Pad or underquilt...nothing? And what are you currently using for top insulation...a sleeping bag?

    If this is the case (nothing + sleeping bag)...I would suggest looking for bottom insulation first. Or both the TQ and UQ together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarmeat View Post
    st4hangin, unless you’ve experience with temperature rated gear and know what works for you, I wouldn’t rely on a 40° quilt to keep you warm at 40°. I’ve learned that I want a 10 degree margin. Also, for me, down has a wide upper comfort range. Like a quilt will be comfortable at much warmer temperatures and can be easily cooled/vented. That said, a 40° quilt might work for you at 40° if you add and underquilt protector (UQP). I am much smaller than you but find times when the WIDE Hammock Gear option is just the ticket. If I ever thought I’d have to go to ground on a couple of days of an adventure, I’d take it. If it were just one day, I’d put up with the inconvenience of a bit narrower standard cut. But it’s amazing how much “tuck in” that extra 5 inches adds. And the wide choice on your selections adds 4 inches to each side.

    If I were 6’3” I’d absolutely pay the extra $10f for that width. I have a friend that is 6’ 4”. He sees what I have and wants to copy me. I have to remind him that at 5’ 5”, we live in different worlds.
    The 40 degree ratings on TQs combined with 20 degree under insulation have served me well, with different base layers, easily into the 20's. People sleep different. If you sleep cold certainly buy a warmer insulation kit. I started out with a 40 degree TQ using partial UQ's rated @20 degrees. One is an HG clone and the other a Lost Biker Lewis. Since going with full length Asym insulation I've been able to tighten that up to under insulation rated @30 degrees. Probably because I'm not losing as much heat out of my lower extremities and the integrated UQ is sewn and has no leaks. Venting becomes much more like at home in your own bed, where you just throw a leg out from under a blanket or push it off to one side for a bit. 40-20 over night temps with my pretty general 40/20 insulation kits are a sweet spot for me. As cougarmeat pointed out, Your mileage may vary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLTurtle View Post
    OP, what are you using for bottom insulation? Pad or underquilt...nothing? And what are you currently using for top insulation...a sleeping bag?

    If this is the case (nothing + sleeping bag)...I would suggest looking for bottom insulation first. Or both the TQ and UQ together.
    I use a 40deg wwbnt wookie uq and usually a wool blanket for top but the wool is heavy and bulky

    thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by st4hangin View Post
    I use a 40deg wwbnt wookie uq and usually a wool blanket for top but the wool is heavy and bulky

    thx
    So you got the UQ first, nice! I'd still recommend the wider TQ, if you're an active or side sleeper.

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