Differential Loft quilt - does one exist?

[mcimes]

Hey Gang,
I always have cold feet. Always. Im tired of it. Yes, I could get down booties, but thats a crutch more than a cure. I just want my quilt to keep me fully warm. If I bought a full 0* thats far too warm for my upper body. An overstuffed 20* is already plenty warm for my torso.

Basically what I want is a custom quilt with a 20* (2.5" loft) body and a 0* (3.5" loft) footbox (the lower 24" or so of quilt). Does anyone make a quilt like this? Trailheads said he would make this for me, but am just wondering if anyone else has polled the cottage makers to see if they will do this. It seems quilts with 100% horizontal baffles like Trailheadz or Gryffon gear would work with this design, or also Horizontal/Vertical split quilts like HG or UGQ.

Anyone ever try this? Who else should I RFQ? Decent idea?

2nd, How do people like 100% horizontal baffle quilts like Trailheads, Katabatic, or Gryffon gear? I only have experience with HG top quilts that are H/V split. Note I would get extra overstuff in the 30-40% range so down doesnt migrate to the sides.
Any destinct advantages to vertical baffles like HG, Warb, or EE?

[Countrybois]

To your last question...

I prefer 100% horizontal baffles. I've had both, only currently own horizontally baffled.

I don't know for sure that there is a functional difference, but that it's what I prefer.

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[OneClick]

To your last question...

I prefer 100% horizontal baffles. I've had both, only currently own horizontally baffled.

I don't know for sure that there is a functional difference, but that it's what I prefer.

Same here. Horizontal is "side to side" correct? All my Hammockgear top quilts are like that (they changed them later on). That way I can move some down to the top of my body where I need it. Not much good to have it smashed on my sides where the UQ is working. Or just leave it alone. I like having the option.

[CVKealey]

I've struggled with cold feet as well. Got a set of booties to try out, but I've also considered looking for/making a sort of "secondary footbox". Imagine a quilt that just covers from the knees down. Maybe some cam snaps that connect to the main quilt to keep it in place.

I know in one of Shug's videos, he shows how to use a down vest in this way, and I've done that with limited success. If I could find a vest where the arm holes and neck zipped shut, that'd be an awesome bit of dual purpose gear.

I guess I think it would be more useful to have some kind of add on piece since I don't know that I'd need it all the time. But, if your feet are consistently cold, a dual temp quilt may be the best solution. Either larger baffles and more down or maybe incorporate some other kind of insulation or reflective material.



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[Shug]

I've struggled with cold feet as well. Got a set of booties to try out, but I've also considered looking for/making a sort of "secondary footbox". Imagine a quilt that just covers from the knees down. Maybe some cam snaps that connect to the main quilt to keep it in place.

I know in one of Shug's videos, he shows how to use a down vest in this way, and I've done that with limited success. If I could find a vest where the arm holes and neck zipped shut, that'd be an awesome bit of dual purpose gear.

I guess I think it would be more useful to have some kind of add on piece since I don't know that I'd need it all the time. But, if your feet are consistently cold, a dual temp quilt may be the best solution. Either larger baffles and more down or maybe incorporate some other kind of insulation or reflective material.



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For the last few winters I've used a nice big down parka over the footbox of my TQ. I pull the sleeves inside the jacket and zip up the pockets. Works real good. Feet have been happy to be out in winter.

[BillyBob58]

For the last few winters I've used a nice big down parka over the footbox of my TQ. I pull the sleeves inside the jacket and zip up the pockets. Works real good. Feet have been happy to be out in winter.

On a just before 2021 Christmas trip to the North Carolina mountains, sleeping at about 3300 feet elevation, I was using gear that was new to me. A Superior Gear 30°F rated insulated Hammock, and a Sierra Madre 30°F rated top quilt(weighs about 16 oz, size long, including hood). The forecast low was 18°F. Though it only reached 25°F(with a bit of a breeze, no tarp, just the wide open deck's roof) on the porch that I was sleeping under. I did not have all of my gear, not even wool socks. Just the thin nylon socks that I had been wearing all day. Since I had never tested these two quilts anywhere near their rating, I was a bit paranoid about being cold. I was able to layer up my top half with clothing and fake vapor barrier's, but not much I could do for my feet.

So I tried a couple of Shug's tricks(Thank 'Ya, Shug!): I put a thin closed cell foam and very flexible foot pad from AHE inside the foot box of the top quilt, and wrapped my down jacket around both the under quilt and the foot box of the top quilt. After a couple of hours, in the mid-20s, I realized I was way overheating. I pulled the pad out, but my feet remained quite warm, maybe too warm. So both of those tricks work quite well to boost foot warmth. Although, caution may be necessary if I'm not using my vapor barrier socks. I was so warm that it is quite likely I was even sweating a bit, even after removing the foot pad. If this sweat, and/or vapor, is being wicked out into my down foot box, I might not even be aware of it. That might lead to trouble after a night or two. A potential problem of being really, toasty warm. Which I was, with or without the pad.

[CVKealey]

Also, you might want to throw a line to the folks at Jack's R Better. Their quilts also use horizontal baffles, so they would be easy to adapt. I don't know how open they are to custom work, though.

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[m00ch]

I will take my down jacket and put it inside my foot box. It fills in all the open space nicely and you have the bonus of a warm jacket in the morning.

Another thing that changed my foot warmth is getting a 44” foot box. It seems to keep my toes from compressing the down and creating a cold spot.

I can confirm that Nunatak will create quilts with different down fills in the foot box as opposed to the torso.


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[Otter1]

I prefer vertical baffles, but that's subjective. Won't know til you try.

For warm feet, I do NOT wear tight socks (can restrict circulation while lying down) - in fact I use LOOSE, thick, soft socks. I have some light fleece and wool options and a super-thick handmade pair from Russia.

[georgecarr]

Our store is closed right now as we recover and try to get caught up, but our Dragons Breath tq allows you to shift down vertically depending on where you want more warmth.
https://www.locolibregear.com/gear.h...egory=43306585

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