Quote Originally Posted by LowTech View Post
I just checked my lighter pack list and it says almost 17lb w/o food or water. Where we've been hiking (the desert) water has been the big weight add.

And, I don't know if you're aware but in the "donating members" area there's a section of padding sports.
I'll have to check my lighter pack list. I keep changing things out. I really should ditch the camera and just use my phone. That adds quite a bit. Plus California is pretty much a desert in the summer, so yes, water adds a lot. I think I'm around 15 - 17 lbs depending on what I bring.

I didn't even know there was a donating members area. I'll have to check it out!