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    testing a route for the Adventure Cycling ***.

    Hello,
    I am looking at offering to guide a route for the Adventure cycling association.
    Anyone want to come along as I preride it?
    Thinking by the end of Oct.

    I know there is hanging if it is a two day one night. I was recently in the area I picked for that. I am not as sure about the prospects if it needs to be made a two night three day trip.
    That is why you should preride before bringing others though. Or so I have been told by smarter people that have fewer "Adventures".

    I will be riding my fill sus xc and expect to put put along at about 12-14 averaged out.

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    Very cool. Last weekend was the ACA Bike a Park weekend, or something to that effect. My border collie and I participated by enrolling a trip at local state park and then MTB trails on FS lands. If I was over east I probably would be happy to tag along. ACA is a stellar organization and headquartered about 40 miles north in Missoula, MT. I hope you find some company and have a great ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlTrailDog View Post
    Very cool. Last weekend was the ACA Bike a Park weekend, or something to that effect. My border collie and I participated by enrolling a trip at local state park and then MTB trails on FS lands. If I was over east I probably would be happy to tag along. ACA is a stellar organization and headquartered about 40 miles north in Missoula, MT. I hope you find some company and have a great ride!
    Yeah they do one tour here in Arkansas every year. Seems like a great way to get people into Hammock Camping and out in the woods. It is a lot easier for me to pack up my hammock on a bike then it is a tent for sure.

    Also means if I get lazy at the middle of a mountain bike run, here comes my cloud. 71 dutchware chair out of a chum bag.

    You want to make people envious pull out a hammock chair and hang over a Briar Patch while they're trying to squat in the middle of Briars or hanging off a cliff trying to get a couple calories.



    Just to be clear.
    I am planning a trip.
    Making sure there are good hanging spots for plan B as well as A is the point.

    How I am getting my hammock to the woods matters. If you can't enjoy the trip with me, why come?

    Seems pertinent, as does who the trip is for.

    This is about helping newbies have a good time by properly preparing.



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    Hang in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcrow2 View Post
    Yeah they do one tour here in Arkansas every year. Seems like a great way to get people into Hammock Camping and out in the woods. It is a lot easier for me to pack up my hammock on a bike then it is a tent for sure.

    Also means if I get lazy at the middle of a mountain bike run, here comes my cloud. 71 dutchware chair out of a chum bag.

    You want to make people envious pull out a hammock chair and hang over a Briar Patch while they're trying to squat in the middle of Briars or hanging off a cliff trying to get a couple calories.



    Just to be clear.
    I am planning a trip.
    Making sure there are good hanging spots for plan B as well as A is the point.

    How I am getting my hammock to the woods matters. If you can't enjoy the trip with me, why come?

    Seems pertinent, as does who the trip is for.

    This is about helping newbies have a good time by properly preparing.



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    Lol . . . Thank you for that!

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    Looked at the link provided, and saw that on the generalized map that the loop is 148-miles. What are some of the Aluminum/Steel Adventure bikes that I might want to shop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_guilbeau View Post
    Looked at the link provided, and saw that on the generalized map that the loop is 148-miles. What are some of the Aluminum/Steel Adventure bikes that I might want to shop?
    Lol.

    Well that is a conversation I would like to have in depth because it covers many different variables that need to be considered.

    Hammocks open up more options for bike choices. The lack of poles, and the ability to separate into small compressable, LIGHT components is marvelous.

    This not only allows you to use a full suspension bike like the Polygon siskiu line, or my current long distance tourer a Motobecane phantom.

    You can cut pounds off your load by using tree straps to replace viole's and use your dry bag for your sleep system as a bar bag with them.

    You can also pack the section of your tailbag against your seat post with heavy items, like food. With the space savings from TQ vs bag.

    An UQ is smaller and lighter than most pads. You can swap out that lower fork space on your Marin with water.

    That brings up a problem that hammock camping can cause on a bike with air suspension.

    You really can honestly load more especially, in the summertime on a bike with a hammock then you can a tent. It's not just volume its density and the ability to locate things in places that would be just horribly awkward or unsafe if they were stiff or heavy.

    Meanss that you can easily go on trips to where you are out of contact with civilization and out of the ability to do regular maintenance longer than you have ever done before if you came to this from tent camping.

    That means that super plush and as smooth as your RockShox, fox, or Manitou Fork might be. When doing long-term camping with a hammock where you sleep so good you never want to come out of the woods. Going with a lower quality spring fork or high-quality spring rear suspension with its lower maintenance requirements will pay dividends. No fifty hour seal changes on a Ridgerunner. Why put one on your bike.

    Of course if you are the kind of crazy person and a****** that your wife is more than happy to let run away for three to four weeks out of the time you can still get a rack on a full suspension.

    Unfortunately the usual problem that you have in choosing between an aluminum versus steel frame bicycle is aggravated when you add a hammock to the mix.

    Not just the pack ability on the bike, but your ability to set up camp dang near anywhere on a hammock adds to your problems.

    Well you normally might be okay with taking any nice touring bicycle with comfortable geometry and an appropriate number of bottle bosses such as anything from the salsa line. The long amount of time you will spend in the woods if you are sleeping and something as comfortable as my warbonnet Eldorado enhances your problem with being able to damage and repair your frame.

    Personally I like to combine the summer weight Savings of my hammock setup with the weight Savings of an aluminum frame bike. Tougher than carbon and cheap enough to replace as long as I get more than 3- 5 year service out of it.

    Though steel frame bikes from Decathlon do make me a little bit more tempted to load up with a steel frame bike in my winter gear trusting for more enjoyment higher on mountains farther away from civilization. And trading added weight for added peace of mind.


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    Consider me confused. Looking at the link, it states "expert gravel ride, very good fitness required" and then in contrast to that "suitable for all skill levels". Huh?

    A full suspension bike is a pita in those places where it isn't expressly required, but when you need it, it's really needed, such as Ripio which I consider to be the worst. Contrary to what your experience has been, I've found that my hammock gear takes up volume quite a bit more that a tent setup and water is also tricky to carry on a bike like that, though you aren't really going anywhere off the path far enough to worry about that.

    My difficulty with hammocks on a trip like yours is that it would be nice, though not essential, that every member of the group should have a hammock. that would go double with the bike and so it could exclude a great number of potential riders. Lastly ... 12 to 14 mph on mostly gravel for 148 miles overnight with moderate elevation changes? A hundred miles for a tree day is more like the ACA rides tempo for similar conditions. I remember riding a few days near the land between the lakes with a guy who scouted for ACA and he rode variations of the route over and over before it went to approval.

    Good luck, hope I didn't sound too negative and let us know how it goes for you. I got into hammocking partly because of the benefits it can bring to cyclists but on a long tour I always make sure I can also go to ground - always.

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    I took a better look at the site you used for planning and see that I didn't pay proper attention. I guess I got thrown by the bike you chose and thought that it would be some sort of wild offroad single track trip. Now I see that it's mostly nice gravel and so no real technical skill is required though fitness is a must for you plans - so consider me un-confused. Sorry about that.

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