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    Dutch Xenon wide winter tarp

    Anyone have one and would like to share pros/cons.



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    Quote Originally Posted by btelectric View Post
    Anyone have one and would like to share pros/cons

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    I have this Xenon Tarp


    Pros -
    1. lightweight
    2. easy to pitch
    3. spreader bars work well (qnty. of two)
    4. blends in with nature
    5. compact

    Cons -
    1. fragile material
    2. not heavy duty so you have to treat it gently
    3. I prefer 4x4 meter or larger tarps for protection
    4. Would like another door at the open end, however this is easily remedied by adding a HEX BASE tarp
    5. Almost too lightweight, but that is what you are paying for

    I am very pleased with the product
    Last edited by joe_guilbeau; 08-04-2021 at 09:34.

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    Thanks Joe. I went ahead and ordered one to check out.

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    Don't have a wide but am really happy with my standard DW winter tarp. Got it last fall and have used it from a stormy low 20s to 100f for shade with 2+ months of deployment with no sign of wear or UV deterioration. The material is lighter than I thought it would be and packs up nicely in a standard HG tarp sleeve. You will need to seal the ridgeline and the edges are simply hemmed w/o grosgrain at least on the standard with minimal but sufficient corner reinforcement. Looks to me like it was designed to be clean and light over bomber heavy and overdone as in closer to ultralight than expedition. Well made.

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    Thanks for the input! Here in the Smokies it can rain most any day and is usually accompanied by some wind. I wanted a wide tarp with doors to help with those situations and to get the drip edge farther away from the area under the hammock.

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    It will do that for you.
    I have the wide winter and the first time I tested it, we got 4-6" of rain over 8 hours with tornadoes in the area. I stayed perfectly dry with room to move about. If you got the internal pole mods, the wind shouldn't be a problem. It was pretty solid.
    The material is light but strong. I had no trouble sliding it into a single snakeskin.
    I'm very pleased with it except for maybe two things: there is a lot of material that you have to wrangle setting it up in the wind, and the internal pole mod makes it just a little more complicated rigging that up.
    All in all, I'm very happy with it.

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    Thanks! I did not get the pole mod, prefer the side panel pullouts. Do you use a continuous ridgeline with yours? I tend to go back and forth between a CRL and Dutch Stingers, may try something new, who knows!

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    This is my first tarp with the internal poles. I can see an advantage to them, but I think I'll find myself using the externals more often( over the top), and use the same poles to go into porch mode when that seems best.
    I hang the tarp with split ridgeline (Stingers), but use the full length ridgeline under the tarp that Dutch supplies. It holds the internal poles in place, when I use them, but I'll hang other stuff onto it like a lantern, clothes or stuff sacks.

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    Yes, I was going to add an internal ridgeline for storage purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by btelectric View Post
    Thanks! I did not get the pole mod, prefer the side panel pullouts. Do you use a continuous ridgeline with yours? I tend to go back and forth between a CRL and Dutch Stingers, may try something new, who knows!

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    Split ridgelines are so much easier with this tarp. Connect one side to correct height, and then reel out the tarp and cinch up the other end. On the downwind side, stake out the four points, and then you can stake out the two inner first and then the two outer tarp tensioning.

    On the tarp there are reflective shock cord loops secured with Easy Grab Cords.

    12-inch Black Easton Aluminum Military stakes are wrapped with 10-feet of Yellow Zing-It in a double half-hitched to the stake head and terminated with Dutch Ringworms.

    Drive in the stakes down at approximate locations, string up the tarp, grab the Ringworms, hook to shock-cord, pull to tension, and wrap around the "locking wing."

    No cords to get tangled, and when you break camp, pull the stake, clean it and then place the Ringworm over the end of the stake and simply spin the head of the stake. Cord wraps around the stake and you can loop the loose end wrap around the "locking wing" and that is all there is to it. Clean and simple.

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