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    I’m skeptical because they look so much like the Deltas which failed pretty easily, but I supported the Kickstart with an order of 4 x 40g XL. Two together is still less than 4oz, so maybe. Why, just curious, still Skeptical. The problem with the Delta is the ground gives way in front of the stake, it needs to be about 16” long instead of 4”.

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    Tensa recommends a 300mm(12") or longer stake.
    Possible wider stakes for very soft soils, sand & snow...

    Msr Tough stake (Med) are just over 300mm but heavy (200g)+ expensive. Low guyline attachment.

    Hilleberg sand & snow are 300mm, light (50g) & expensive. Mid guyline attachment.

    Supa Peg sand polycarbonate 300mm (100g) cheap. High guyline attachment
    Supa Peg sand polypropylene 300mm(40g) cheap. High guyline attachment.
    Also in longer lengths.

    Or DIY... aluminium angle from the hardware store.

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    You will be happier if you change your mindset to view the stakes as a last resort and look for fixed structure for anchorage (logs are the best) and ditch some or all of the stakes if you are hiking and load up on low stretch strap and or amsteel to work with what is there in the landscaspe.

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    dyneema guyline extensions, light, compact...reach those natural anchors /firmer ground.
    Mountain views are good for the soul....& getting to them is good for my waistline.

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    Fabric dead man anchor for loose soil/sand....light & compact. But you have to dig a hole & bury.
    Mountain views are good for the soul....& getting to them is good for my waistline.

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    how long are the UCR guylines, or would these be better made from whoopie slings ? if so how long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Special7195 View Post
    how long are the UCR guylines, or would these be better made from whoopie slings ? if so how long?
    You can see a visual of how long they are in my video of the Trekking Treez.
    Might give some insight.
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    Might as well insert this here: https://youtu.be/AIo6XWYKG5Q

    The geometry of the setup matters as much or more than the anchors themselves. But my personal go-to setup for a 2-pole setup is 4 Peggy Peg screw anchors plus 1 30cm ti stake (Boomstake minus boom).

    Use the stake as a ground probe to find buried obstructions, and then place the screws immediately behind those, say behind a buried rock. You can also use the stake to rock-hammer pilot holes for the screws in very hard ground. Finally the stake can reinforce a screw in very loose ground.

    Any natural anchor you can use, like a shrub base, means you have an extra anchor in pack to double up for any extra loose spots.

    Our UCRs are about 12’ usable length. They are better than Whoopies for this.


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    Logs make a good anchor. Just be sure they are located above the high tide line or they may start floating - or so I've been told

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarmeat View Post
    Logs make a good anchor. Just be sure they are located above the high tide line or they may start floating - or so I've been told

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    Nice angle on the Solo, but why is the hammock so far away from it?
    You could keep the height and have less pressure on your ridgeline.

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