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    all secure in sector 7 Shug's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by nanok View Post
    see what you've done now? you woke up shug, you don't speak like this of whoopie slings in His presence. i suspect soon there will be a rant video regarding "why whoopie slings _are_ worth bothering with". i'm looking forward to it.

    i don't like and don't use whoopie slings myself, i think they are not the optimal solution for hammock suspension. i also think that you shouldn't care about what i or anyone else thinks in terms of preference (that is to say: if safety is not the question), and you should make up your own mind and then come here and piss off shug .

    shug's right: there's many options, and they're all worth bothering with. "if you have to ask, then try it". there's no safety concern with whoopie slings if they are well made and used properly, everything else is personal preference. and entertainment (thank you shug)
    I give this comment good marks.
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    Just to further muddy the waters, I use different suspension because they give a different feel.

    I bought a dutchware hammock chair couple weeks ago. And I found the most comfortable way to do that is to Becket hitch with some poly/uhmwp straps because they have just a little bit of bounce.

    For my El Dorado that I sleep in I like whoopie slings and Kevlar straps, absolutely no give in the suspension.

    And at least three times a day simply to annoy people I will hang a hammock using a parnell Purcell to spider straps when I only need a limited amount of adjustability.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
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    ****, now i regret not having used "you have stirred The Shug", instead. aah, hindsight... i'll save it for next time i guess.

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    bdnaz... I hope you're not using whoopies with your daisy chain webbing. I thought you mentioned that you added another component to what you were already using, and yeah, that would be too much!

    (Just checking in a friendly manner that you've got tree huggers in the mix with the whoopies...)
    Carry on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanok View Post
    you should make up your own mind and then come here and piss off shug .
    But that's exactly what i did! Am i not doing this right?

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    I like having flexibility in my setup so it's easier to adapt to different situations, tree spacing, etc. My "standard" suspension right now is a pair of 7' poly straps with an evo loop on one end. Those go around the trees. In tight spaces (< 12 feet or so between trees), I tie those right to the CLs with a beckett hitch. For more normal spacing (~15-20 feet), I have a pair of toggles (made from sections of fiberglass tent poles - not the lightest, but not heavy, plenty sturdy and I already had 'em) that I attach to the strap with a MSH and a pair of slings with Dutch whoopie hooks. I'll use one or both of them as needed. The total suspension weight (straps, toggles and whoopies) is ~4 ounces. I previously used a pair of 15' kevlar straps with a beckett hitch. That was definitely simpler and a few hairs lighter (~3 ounces), but fine-tuning the height was always a bit tricky. Whoopies are much better for micro-adjustments.

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    all secure in sector 7 Shug's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by leiavoia View Post
    But that's exactly what i did! Am i not doing this right?
    Shug not teed off. Just defending my favorite suspension. Just that.
    Whooooo Buddy)))) All Secure in Sector Seven

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    Shug not teed off. Just defending my favorite suspension. Just that.
    Well don't worry, you've inspired many to take up whoopie slings with your videos, myself included!

    I still use them when i run out of strap hanging in old-growth forests. But since i discovered the XJ35S' X-Bend, it become my go-to.

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    Wouldn't UCRs be equal if not better? Pretty much the same "grip" system, but using less amsteel? What are the downsides of UCRs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomerJ View Post
    Wouldn't UCRs be equal if not better? Pretty much the same "grip" system, but using less amsteel? What are the downsides of UCRs?
    Good question. The main issue most people have with UCR is securing the unloaded end of the bury, although there are some easy ways to manage that. When I was experimenting with them I used a simple Prusik made from a smaller cord, Atwood Micro cord @1.2mm. And then you still have to make some sort of knot or use hardware to join it up with the tree strap and maybe the hammock, although a fixed eye larksheaded thru the hammock's sewn channel would work there.

    ucr_prusik_small.jpg

    I used it on a few trips but then moved on to try other stuff. Finally settled upon the simplicity of strap straight to CL.
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