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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    Kevlar 3.3 has a little less stretch than Venom or Myerstech (early version... I've not tried the latest stuff) although not by much. UHMWPE is amazing stuff and if I were using J-Bend I'd stay with that material.
    Been having trouble finding an illustration of the "J-bend". Knots 3d doesn't have it by that name. Can you point me to one?

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    LowTech, y’all correct me if I’m wrong. I guess sometimes and sometimes it’s hard to remember a knot, if I don’t use it often.

    Also I have no illustrations, and can’t provide photos. Wish me luck with my word picture!

    Form a marlin spike hitch with your strap.
    Insert continuous loop (at hammock’s end) into marlin spike hitch instead of a toggle.

    The continuous loop becomes the toggle

    Tighten marlin spike hitch a bit

    Form a bight or bunny rabbit ear in excess strap that is hanging down from marlin spike hitch.

    Insert bight into protruding end of continuous loop. Now once the bight or bunny rabbit ear is through continuous loop, pull continuous loop down towards hammock, thus trapping bunny rabbit ear.

    Hand tighten entire marlin spike hitch and continuous loop. You now have a J-bend!
    It does not slip and it does not jam! Just like it’s big brother, Marlin Spike Hitch.

    If I got paid to tell lies
    It just wouldn’t be as much fun

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    I think you got it Phantom.

    If you have intimate knowledge of the MSH then it's super easy to remember the J-Bend. MSH might be my favorite knot in the world and after having seen the J-Bend done in a video I'll start trying it out.

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    Thanks, uninjured

    YouTube
    J-Bend How-To
    By J. Garcia

    He invented J-Bend and gave it a great name.
    The immortal J-Bend will suspend hammocks well into the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Grappler View Post
    Thanks, uninjured

    YouTube
    J-Bend How-To
    By J. Garcia

    He invented J-Bend and gave it a great name.
    The immortal J-Bend will suspend hammocks well into the future.
    Here's the link to the video.
    ~ All I want is affordable, simple, ultralight luxury. That’s not asking too much is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uninjured View Post
    Hmm, I should sell these extra Myerstech straps and get kevlar 3.3's to compare except the kevlar's are simply not appearing in stock (been OOS for months now!)
    I've been wanting to try Kevlar straps as well and have been equally frustrated with them being out of stock.
    ~ All I want is affordable, simple, ultralight luxury. That’s not asking too much is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopcornFool View Post
    I see Popcorn Fool has picked up Cmoulders method of making is post disappear. If you don't know what I'm talking about see here, https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app

    Phantom, thank you for the write up, it makes perfect sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowTech View Post
    I see Popcorn Fool has picked up Cmoulders method of making is post disappear. If you don't know what I'm talking about see here, https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app

    Phantom, thank you for the write up, it makes perfect sense.
    Nope. That's my whole post. I embedded the link. Just click on the blue text.
    ~ All I want is affordable, simple, ultralight luxury. That’s not asking too much is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopcornFool View Post
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    I'm mostly just curious ... has anybody experienced similar Amsteel fail with a slipping Beckett hitch when using UHMWPE straps? I haven't seen any other posts that mention it. References to slippage - yes. Cutting the CLs - no.
    No - no amsteel fail with a slipping beckett hitch using UHMWPE straps.
    I've been using Jeff's UHMWPE 1" 1.4 gpf (grams per foot) straps for well over a year now, multiple times a week.

    I saw his (Jeff's) videos stating that the 1.4 gpf UHMWPE would slip if using a regular Beckett Hitch/Slippery Sheet Bend, but wanted to believe it wouldn't happen to me.
    Jeff was right, and I was wrong, lol - AND - I'm "special" enough, that I tried it several times, LOL... thinking that maybe I'd just not set it well enough prior to getting in the hammock, LOL! WRONG, lol,
    While I did put a few wear marks on the UHMWPE straps, I had zero issues with the 7/64 amsteel, and am in fact still using the same short dogbones (I use dogbones instead of CLs), now many, many, many years old. Still using the same straps too, but they're less than two years old.

    I subsequently tried numerous "knots" or "hitches" with the 1.4 gpf UHMWPE straps. The only thing I've had slip on me, was the regular beckett hitch/slippery sheet bend. Once I started double wrapping the tail, or pulled through "eye" or "loop", I stopped having any slipping once I'd set the "knot". I also had no slippage issues with the J-bend. Some of those hitches/bends can be a little more difficult to undo/pull apart than others...

    All that said though,
    What I have settled on, and find to be the best - For Me - (super easy to put up & take down, zero slippage) is MSH (marlin spike hitching) the webbing, and popping my dogbone eye, or CL in your case, over that toggle and around the back/bottom of the "knot". I, and a few friends of mine who've been hanging from the 1.4 gpf UHMWPE got that "tip" from another long distance hiker last year, and have been rockin' it like that for a while now (over six months) with zero issues...
    I just use two 2" pieces of a "fat" plastic coat/clothes hanger for my toggles, that a friend let me cut up & drill when I was at his house. Works very well for me. For reference, I'm six foot tall and around 200 lbs, so ballpark your size.

    - willin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopcornFool View Post
    Nope. That's my whole post. I embedded the link. Just click on the blue text.
    The blue text doesn't show up for us Tapatalk users.

    I should modify that, it doesn't show up if done in a certain way.

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