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**Phantom Grappler** · 05-25-2021, 22:16

Originally Posted by jcald1

Thanks everyone. When I looked up some straps on Amazon, it was scary to see the 1 star reviews reporting their straps fraying or snapping. For each product, it was a small percentage of reviewers, but still, it made me want to really do my homework.
I'll check out the Shug Emery YouTube channel and afterwards re-read your posts.

Many of us buy our straps and hammocks, tarps, quilts, rope from cottage vendors.
Here on Hammock Forums click on Forums, then click on Hammock gear manufacturers.
You will see a list of cottage vendors who specialize in manufacturing and procuring top quality gear for us hammock campers.

Good luck

**cmoulder** · 05-26-2021, 05:08

Originally Posted by rmcrow2

Just to add confusion to things.

I use parnell Purcell in place of whoopie sometimes.

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Definitely got the confusion part.

The other part was lost in translation.

**rmcrow2** · 05-26-2021, 05:22

You caught me as I walked into my kitchen to make tea where I've been sleeping in the backyard with my son. Great timing as he is hanging off some.

A parnell Purcell is a continuous loop tied with a prussik. It is used as a. Adjustable length personal anchor.
It is also a way to use a static rope for fall protection. The prussik allows for shock absorbtion.

Less adjustable than a whoopie, no dangling lines, built in water break easier to adjust than a Beckett.

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**cmoulder** · 05-26-2021, 05:31

OK, thanks... I googled AND duckduckgo-ed it and did not find a link.

Learned a new one!

**rmcrow2** · 05-26-2021, 05:43

Originally Posted by cmoulder

OK, thanks... I googled AND duckduckgo-ed it and did not find a link.

Learned a new one!

Assume I'm misspelling Parnell.

The reason I threw it in was the shock loading. If you bounce around on amsteel it doesn't absorb the shock.

A new hanger might benefit from that as well as the slide adjustment.

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**cmoulder** · 05-26-2021, 06:14

I think you'll find that the vast majority of experienced hangers prefer webbing and cordage that has very minimal stretch so that things do not sag over time and require readjustment.

It's no fun setting up a hammock with perfect sit height — not to mention suspension webbing angle and tarp coverage — only to wake up in the middle of the night with one's butt hanging two inches off the ground and underquilt dragging in the duff or muck.

And it's the same for tarps... saggy, flapping tarps are no fun, either!

**rmcrow2** · 05-26-2021, 06:34

Originally Posted by cmoulder

I think you'll find that the vast majority of experienced hangers prefer webbing and cordage that has very minimal stretch so that things do not sag over time and require readjustment.

It's no fun setting up a hammock with perfect sit height — not to mention suspension webbing angle and tarp coverage — only to wake up in the middle of the night with one's butt hanging two inches off the ground and underquilt dragging in the duff or muck.

And it's the same for tarps... saggy, flapping tarps are no fun, either!

Just in case you were under the impression that the parnell prusik will slip under you to absorb shock when you're hanging; allowing you to end up on the ground like paracord. I would like to correct where I may not have conveyed information properly.

You do not want a personal anchor that will change its length when you are working on the edge of a cliff.

I have children that bounce like it's a trampoline sometimes. More than a hammock should hold.

Also friends who worry about static line as they toss and turn.

I move around and my hang doesn't change. I am 150lb with three wraps on 7/64.

I think it's saved my hammocks when my son is too excited though.

You are very definitely right about how annoying a saggy ridgeline on your tarp is though.
I like a nice thick easy to work with rope for a new hangers tarp. I use 3-6mm Kevlar line. Go thicker as your fingers get colder.

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**joe_guilbeau** · 05-26-2021, 09:28

I have 40-feet of Dutchware 1-inch Spider Daisy Chain Webbing $1.50 per foot.

With the Mantis hardware it is simple and quick to adj and hang.

**Phantom Grappler** · 05-26-2021, 09:44

If a prusik works for you, on your hammock suspension, then it works for you.

I will not use an amsteel to amsteel prusik as body weight bearing component of my hammock suspension. I believe there is possibility of some slippage, followed by a shiny look to affected part of amsteel, or even worse, amsteel turning black from rope burn caused by heat from slipping.

Then the amsteel would be weakened.

When I first started hammock camping, I made YouTube videos showing one of my “off the wall”suspensions. An amsteel continuous loop was formed into a multi wrap prusik (5 wraps? Yielding 10 coils?)
This was on an old style heavy duty thick strap. Once I forgot to tighten prusik and was slowly lowered almost to ground.

I no longer use that suspension. And it would not work on more up to date lighter thinner tree straps.

Thanks for sharing your hammock rigging

**joe_guilbeau** · 05-27-2021, 04:56

Originally Posted by rmcrow2

You caught me as I walked into my kitchen to make tea where I've been sleeping in the backyard with my son. Great timing as he is hanging off some.

A parnell Purcell is a continuous loop tied with a prussik. It is used as a. Adjustable length personal anchor.

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