Yeah, too heavy for my taste but the bottom entry one is only 163g.Originally Posted by cmoulder
320g (11.3oz!) for the 11 footer... good argument for an integrated net and a UQ made with Argon 67 shell.
Yeah, too heavy for my taste but the bottom entry one is only 163g.320g (11.3oz!) for the 11 footer... good argument for an integrated net and a UQ made with Argon 67 shell.
This is one of those things where it’s always going to be personal preference. Personally, having used both, I will always use a bottom entry. It’s so much easier to get in and out. If the shock cord is properly tensioned, insects can’t join you. There’s no zippers to catch on stuff. I can sit with my legs out and still be covered.I can remove it for bug free season’s. I can put it on a different hammock. I don’t need tie outs to keep it off my face. It’s just better IMO.
On the other hand, others are going to have a host of reason’s why integrated is better. There’s no right answer.
Which one do you have?
I have two diy bottom entry. One of these days I’ll get around to building one out of the lighter weight mesh’s that were not available when I built mine.
> If only there was a way to relieve ones’ self at night while still protected by bug net but far enough away to clear the hammock.
See Restop I at https://restop.com/
The Restop II “features” are probably too gymnastic for inside the hammock/bugnet.
But further discussion along this line would probably be for the “gear” sub-forum.
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Even though I like integrated I have not ruled out bottom entry, especially if could find something made with the really light material.
The reason is the reliability factor for a buggy trip far from a bailout point, where a blown zipper could really lead to a lot of agony when black flies and mosquitoes are at their worst. I would also carry a more durable hammock for the same reason, especially if not carrying an air mat as back-up, which would also be likely.
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Integrated sure is sleek, and I see the appeal. But I dislike zippers. Heavy, bulky, uncomfortable and always seem to be harder to use when I need to get out quick.
2 separate items will likely be cheaper, lighter and more versatile. Your net can be used on another hammock if need be.
Downside to most separate nets is that they take a bit more thought to put on or take off. Often insulation needs to be taken off and the suspension disconnected. Some nets like draped or sock style give more freedom for this. In this respect.
Neither is right or wrong. Neither will leave you regretting your choice. And chances are, you'll end up with a few hammocks and/or nets anyway. So go grab something and get outside.
Just got a bottom entry for my Superior Gear hammock. Never had a problem with integrated. Love the removable on on my Warbonnets and Dutchware. Though I like how the Warbonnet net is away from my face when zipped in.
I just don't want bugs in with me in bug season.
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Another benefit of integrated is it prevents things from falling out onto the ground while you sleep.
Although I have a Chameleon now, I remain fond of bottom entry bugnets. Hammock, underquilt , UQP all inside the net. Too warm? Slide the underquilt to the side and your underside is still protected from skeeters.
One utility note: there is usually a cordlock to close the opening under you. Replace it with one of the round, flat cordlocks with the big button on the side. Easy to find and open quickly with one hand.
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