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    Quote Originally Posted by rweb82 View Post
    There's nothing wrong with your ENO. There's also nothing wrong with a sirloin steak. But once you've had a dry-aged ribeye, you may not want the sirloin anymore!

    I'm joking of course. But honestly, that's kinda how it is for most of us. I felt totally comfortable in my Grand Trunk Skeeter Beeter Pro when that was all I had. But when I upgraded to my Dream Hammock Raven, there was no going back. It was a different level of comfort. That's not to say everyone will have the same experience. But there is definitely a reason why the majority of us have upgraded our gear over time.
    See, that's what's got me curious. I've read of this happening countless times, so I'm curious about what precisely explains the "upgrade."

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    Thank you for all the replies, everyone.

    Someone mentioned the stretchiness of the ENO fabric. It certainly is that. I'm an oversized dude, and that thing really sags when I sit in it. Obviously, I accommodate that by hanging it higher, but that can be challenging if trees are farther apart than ideal. Might something with less stretch be more ideal for an ox-like human (me)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmike View Post
    Thank you for all the replies, everyone.

    Someone mentioned the stretchiness of the ENO fabric. It certainly is that. I'm an oversized dude, and that thing really sags when I sit in it. Obviously, I accommodate that by hanging it higher, but that can be challenging if trees are farther apart than ideal. Might something with less stretch be more ideal for an ox-like human (me)?
    Indeed it might, but until then just use a hiking pole or a stick to push that suspension up a little bit higher on your trees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolloff View Post
    Indeed it might, but until then just use a hiking pole or a stick to push that suspension up a little bit higher on your trees.
    ....I thought you were going to say to support ME.

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    Might something with less stretch be more ideal for an ox-like human (me)?


    Depending on how tall/wide you are, maybe/yes/probably.

    A properly sized hammock with firmer material and a structural ridge line (for consistent sag) might provide some needed contrast. Might be a good idea to contact the good folks at Dream Hammock and give them your height/weight info and see what they recommend. They have ready-to-ship Freebird hammocks for $75, which will give you some idea of how well a good vendor hammock can perform.

    If it turns out you don't like it, you'll be able to sell it easily on HF and recoup a large portion of the price. Nobody is going to buy an ENO or Grand Trunk or typical Amazon stuff.
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    Ok, I do think I might give that a try. Thank you for the help!

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    The eno is a marginal hammock. A marginal hammock will make some people uncomfortable, but will work fine for others. It depends on how heavy you are, how tall you are, and how you like to sleep.

    I can sleep in my Eno if I need to, but I havent in years. For myself, a six foot tall user at about 250lbs, my Dutchware and Dream hammocks are signifigantly more comfortable, and more convinent with the bugnet options for when I am tired of Mosquittoes.

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    A lot of people started (and some stayed) with the ENO. As they gained more experience, maybe they wanted more features, different color/fabric choices, a larger size, etc. Do you still have the first car you ever owned? And note that many who might throw a little shade on the ENO are themselves sized near or a little beyond the designed norm.

    I have a friend that is 6'4" tall and he looks at my gear - hammocks, kayak - and thinks he wants the same thing. I am no longer 5'6" - I think that height measurement thing at the doctor's office might be broken - so there is no way the gear that fits, works best, for me, will give him the same experience.

    But just because, "there is nothing wrong" with an ENO, that doesn't mean you shouldn't make a different choice. Everything is a little bit different. Ice cream is ice cream; but, on any particular day, you might prefer one flavor over another. How do you know? Try'em out. Take a little bath on the resale of your gear and consider it the price of education - because I haven't yet seen a Hammock 101 class at our community college.

    No matter how much I read, I wouldn't understand that a catenary cut on the edge of a hammock (to save weight/material) would - for me - put an undesirable tight line on the back of my knees when I enter/exit the hammock. But for some, the hammock that was so designed is perfectly fine.

    I suppose it's how much "into it" (hammock lore) you want to be.
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    I have a Kammock Roo double and it sleeps pretty good. I have a HG net hammock which is now called the Circadian similar to a Chamelion. Both feel good to me.

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