Been using DCF tents and tarps for a long time with no problems. But I do carry 'proper' DCF repair tape in my kit, and I've read that duct tape will also work.
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Five Basic Principles of Going Lighter (not me... the great Cam Honan of OZ)
“If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking.” ~ Gen. George S Patton
I know that the DCF tarps do not need it, but I put elastic line on all of my tie outs, gives it that extra give incase it needs it, have not had an issue yet.
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I suppose weight savings for some but cost and issues such as these leave me sticking with my trusty silpoly.
I can't imagine, in our geography here in Colorado especially with all the fires this summer, where falling branches could be avoided. Bummer but maybe old silpoly is your best bet.
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I like the soft sound of rain on the tarp. I imagine that you just get used to it after 5 min or so. That’s my primary concern with them - easily repairable holes just add character (as long as you don’t get wet!).
I will get one eventually I am sure, you don’t find many who made the jump say they regret it.
Noise-wise, I gotta say that my silnylon has a much nicer rain-on-tarp sound that my silpoly, but both are acceptable.
Five Basic Principles of Going Lighter (not me... the great Cam Honan of OZ)
“If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking.” ~ Gen. George S Patton
Well ... I do tend to take care of my gear ... Probably why it takes me so long to pack in the morning ...
I am a wordy mofo ...Seriously, I checked your lighterpack link and it was a nice little primer on the UL mindset for making gear choices. And also a comprehensive gear list... I've seen many that aren't quite, uhh, 'there'.
Some of that primer is out of frustration over some's rants as to how they don't understand other folk's "obsession" with base-weight, and suggesting that "worn weight" is just a way to achieve a desired base-weight driven status. And all the stories of folks being asked by someone carrying a UL load if they can borrow something ... And those who suggest the only stat that's important is total weight, and that people worried about pack weight should instead just get some **** exercise and lose excess weight around their middles!
Jeesus ...
On the other side, the UL forums ARE full of folks that appear to be blindly pursuing specific base weights to be able to claim they've achieved what I consider to be arbitrary standards of UL/SUL/XUL. Arbitrary cause they do not take into account mission or wx.
I believe one can learn a lot from the original tenants of the UL philosophy. Looking at everything with a jaundiced eye - Do I NEED this? Do I carry anything else that will do the same thing? Is there a lighter version I could carry that meets my needs? Can I do the same thing with stuff I find in nature?
(I'm not leaving TP at home and wiping my butt with pine cones.)
The load I carry is driven by mission and weather. If I'm packing out to a lake for a week of fishing. I'm going to carry a big frying pan. But I'll carry the lightest I can find that will fry the size filets I wanna put in it. OTOH, I don't need any kinda frying pan while hiking long distance. And I try to do that in the sweet spot of time after the bugs and before the cold nights so I don't have to carry heavier, and bulkier quilts and base layers.
But if I ever do, I have a pack for that ...
Then there's those who don't see any advantage in obsessing over lighterpack type spreadsheets. Guilty. It focuses me on areas where I could lighten my load. It helps me determine if I really can rock that light, frameless backpack. It's why I occasionally think I'll use that DCF tarp with a light bivy, shorty mattress pad and TQ, and leave my hammock at home. That would drop my base weight down into that arbitrarily established 10 lb UL base weight area. Yay!
Nah! Maybe I'll just stuff my pockets with 1.6lbs of random things and call it Worn Weight...
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