BTW, I made a loop on the stake end of the guy lines with a figure 8 on a bight, and I tried out the zpack 6.4” carbon fiber nails at 6.2 grams each. The stakes exceeded my expectations. They held in the soft ground really well, and they were very durable when it came time to kick them around to pull them out the next morning. I carried 8 stakes which came out just under 2 ounces for all the stakes plus the little dyneema stake bag. Not bad compared to what we used to tote for tent stakes in the old days.
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