Would have never thought

**Longwinters** · 10-29-2020, 06:33

Just getting back into backpacking/camping after 40+years. Started out tent camping but with age came stiff/sore knees, hip and shoulder. So just got into hammocking. I thought it would be easier to find trees than flat spots for a tent. What I found is that it’s all relative. With 3 of us finding suitable tent sites (for 3 tents) was not always easy and trees seemed to abound. Now when all 3 of us switched to hammocks (for 3 hammocks) suitable trees are not always easy to find. Especially in areas where you have to reserve sites sight unseen.
Nothing is ever easy. Lol

**cmoulder** · 10-29-2020, 06:42

Originally Posted by Longwinters

Just getting back into backpacking/camping after 40+years. Started out tent camping but with age came stiff/sore knees, hip and shoulder. So just got into hammocking. I thought it would be easier to find trees than flat spots for a tent. What I found is that it’s all relative. With 3 of us finding suitable tent sites (for 3 tents) was not always easy and trees seemed to abound. Now when all 3 of us switched to hammocks (for 3 hammocks) suitable trees are not always easy to find. Especially in areas where you have to reserve sites sight unseen.
Nothing is ever easy. Lol

Perhaps this is why people who car camp seem to revert to Tensahedron and other external frame solutions for no-tree venues.

As a primarily (99.74%) backpacker doing dispersed/stealth camping at least a few miles into the woods, this is rarely a problem. Also don't have the running/screaming kids, generators, kleiglights, late-night parties, and some guy learning guitar who repeats the same 3 chords 3,278 times.

**Longwinters** · 10-29-2020, 06:53

We don’t car camp but are on designated hiking trails that get a lot of hiker traffic.

**PirateDude** · 10-29-2020, 08:24

Originally Posted by cmoulder

.. and some guy learning guitar who repeats the same 3 chords 3,278 times.

That guy has been following me around for years!

**cmoulder** · 10-29-2020, 09:07

Originally Posted by downisland

That guy has been following me around for years!

There's a cure for that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V_hCqO6UQs

**PirateDude** · 10-29-2020, 09:30

Originally Posted by cmoulder

There's a cure for that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V_hCqO6UQs

Yeah thanks for the reminder! Just pulled my toga from the closet and cued up some Belushi & Aykroyd. Time for some water boiling tests on my new alcohol stove

**ObdewlaX** · 10-29-2020, 11:32

Originally Posted by cmoulder

There's a cure for that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V_hCqO6UQs

Classic

**oldgringo** · 10-30-2020, 09:02

Originally Posted by cmoulder

Perhaps this is why people who car camp seem to revert to Tensahedron and other external frame solutions for no-tree venues.

As a primarily (99.74%) backpacker doing dispersed/stealth camping at least a few miles into the woods, this is rarely a problem. Also don't have the running/screaming kids, generators, kleiglights, late-night parties, and some guy learning guitar who repeats the same 3 chords 3,278 times.

You left out barking dogs. I hate campgrounds...like camping in the projects.

**wbJohn** · 10-30-2020, 11:29

I have a Tensa 4 stand that I use for kayak and car camping. I take it to group hangs so I don't take up trees somebody else may need. The Tensa Solo conversion kit is light enough to take backpacking so only one tree needed. There's always a solution, all it takes is money

**Dvankirk** · 10-29-2020, 07:03

I noticed a lot of people still look for "tent" sites when they start hammocking. For a hammock, the spot doesn't need to be level or completely clear. To me, finding a site that hasn't been cleared helps me uphold the leave no trace philosophy. I'm not saying that you need to climb over some bushes or hang over jagged rocks, but hanging over a less than perfect site can be done if you make sure that everything is secured well.