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    Adjustable Ridgeline Opinions

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    I have an adjustable Whoopie based ridgeline on one of my hammocks. It works great but tends to slip over time and I have to reset it - I just marked the line so I can just pull it to that.

    I don’t use whoopies - they just never appealed to me. This in fact is the only whoopie type adjustment that I have.

    My question, is it normal for them to creep over time? I guess putting the hammock in and out of the stuff sack can loosen it. THinking of just replacing it with a fixed 108 incher. I mean, I’ve never intentionally adjusted it other than the first time I got in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tpatter View Post
    I have an adjustable Whoopie based ridgeline on one of my hammocks...My question, is it normal for them to creep over time?
    My whoopie ridgeline never slipped on me, but like you once I found the sweet spot, I never moved it and just this year replaced it with a fixed version. If you're certain that 108 inches works for you, then yes, I'd go ahead and put a fixed ridgeline on there and forget about it. Keep the whoopie ridgeline for your next hammock or as a spare.
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    Because the whoopie hold depends on bury constriction. I’d imagine it is “natural” for it to slip a little over time. As said above - use it to find the right distance for you, then replace it with a fixed line of that distance.
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    You can find the correct length for the ridgeline and tie a knot with the loose end after milking the bury. Just remember to milk the bury occasionally.

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    There is an advantage to having an adjustable ridgeline... On the occasion that the only trees available are too close together and you have to make do with them, it’s mighty nice to be able to (neatly and easily) temporarily shorten your ridgeline so it’s still up, out of your way and not drooping down tickling your nose as you nap!

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    a (properly constructed) whoopie shouldn't slip under load, but it might when stuffed as you mentioned. i actually use a ucr for my ridgeline (and for my suspension too, btw), as i don't like the waste of rope the whoopie implies for long lengths. i have to secure the ucr with a decent friction hitch, but in this configuration it is rock solid and never slips on me (not even when in and out of the stuff sack, probably because the friction hitch acts as a backup to the burry, and is disturbed by different things than the burry would be).

    an adjustable structural ridgeline is very nice. i also have it marked at the 80-ish % length, to have a known starting point to fine tune from. but if i want to use it more like a chair for instance, with the ucr i can shorten the ridgeline enough for that (worked great a few months ago to find the correct "lay" for a work-from-hammock day), or if i want to experiment with a slightly tauter lay (longer ridgeline) i can do that too. i personally see no reason to have a fixed ridgeline, when making an adjustable one is so easy, and the difference in materials is so insignificant.

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    If the adjustable whoopie sling ridgeline slips under load, the bury of the adjustable eye is probably too short. Dutch has a nice article on his website: What you need to know about AmSteel rope. If you want the maximum holding power, the bury needs to be 3.5 fids long, that means Ø rope x 21 x 3.5. If you're using 1.75 mm Zing-It / Lash-It, that's 129 mm or about 5".

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    Quote Originally Posted by hutzelbein View Post
    If the adjustable whoopie sling ridgeline slips under load, the bury of the adjustable eye is probably too short. Dutch has a nice article on his website: What you need to know about AmSteel rope. If you want the maximum holding power, the bury needs to be 3.5 fids long, that means Ø rope x 21 x 3.5. If you're using 1.75 mm Zing-It / Lash-It, that's 129 mm or about 5".
    It doesn’t slip under load, but it does ‘move’ when the hammock has been packed/unpacked several times. Perhaps it is this specific sling, not sure.

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    Use a lash knot. Won't move on you and easy to tie and untie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tpatter View Post
    It doesn’t slip under load, but it does ‘move’ when the hammock has been packed/unpacked several times. Perhaps it is this specific sling, not sure.
    Since you're happy with the length, you can either make another one with a fixed eye or convert the adjustable one to a fixed eye.

    I've got an adjustable SRL on one hammock and even with a reference mark it's still annoying, so sometime this winter that's going to be addressed.
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