Not sure if you are replying to me or some one else- several of us had similar tips- but either way, hang in there, you will get it! But, if a zero TQ is not keeping you warm at 40F, I would think spending more big bucks on an even warmer TQ is not advisable. Because there is an un-diagnosed problem causing the 0F TQ to fail so miserably, and getting a more expensive quilt will not solve that problem, seems to me. So save your money and figure out what the problem is would be my advise, FWIW!
However, I am starting to assume you are a cold sleeper. Are you a girl? In my experience my wife and daughter and other gals I have known just need a whole lot more insulation than I do at the same temps. But, as said previously, even if a cold sleeper, if there is not some problem that is fixable keeping you from warmth, surely a 0ºF TQ would be adequate even for a cold sleeper at +40F? Some of us here would be in danger of spontaneous combustion trying to use that quilt in those temps!
Even though I think your best bet is to try and figure out what is being done wrong and fix it, I am going to bring one more thing to your attention. I hesitate to do so, because it is a controversial subject, some think it is an awful idea, and it also requires a smidgen of technical understanding so that you don't do it wrong and make things worse. It is not for everyone.
On the other hand, if a person simply cannot be warm, it can be a lifesaver. I am referring to vapor barrier clothing. The link I am providing is primarily about using a VB liner, rather than clothing. I prefer clothing over a liner, but both work in the same manner. And I like this link from way back in 2010, because Dejoha has such great illustrations. But there are about a dozen other newer threads on this hotly debated subject here at HF, which are easily found by searching in case you are interested.
Also, go to page 2 and post #55 for a testimony of how adding a vapor barrier as a last ditch effort saved Dejoha, who's quilts were adequately rated for the temperatures he encountered, from a cold and miserable night. Before he added the vapor barrier, he was shivering, and he went from shivering to warm and comfortable all night. I just think it is an alternative approach that all cold weather campers ought to know about. Probably the easiest and cheapest way to experiment with VBs is to get a large leaf bag, something large enough to go up to your chin level, and -
wearing just a thin layer of synthetic or wool longjohns- get inside that bag which is inside/under your top quilt and ALL other insulation. Another way is to just wear rain gear underneath as much insulation and
as close to the skin as possible. Amazingly to me, some people even have good luck wearing breathable rain gear such as Gore-Tex. Apparently it still slows down vapor transfer enough to be helpful, even if not a true VB. I have done so wearing breathable rain pants since I do not have any actual VB pants, only shirt and socks were true VB. In addition to adding
easily over 20° of warmth, this approach has the other
huge benefit of keeping all of your body vapor out of your insulation, where it tends to condense back into liquid, lowering the loft. If nothing else, this is something good to know as a last ditch effort. Good luck!
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...r-Liners-(VBL)
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