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    Dream Tex Stretch

    Currently using a WB XLC single layer Dream Tex.

    I think I have finally got the nice flat level lay however my lower back seems to get a bit sore when laying the hammock for any length of time.

    I am thinking there is a bit too much stretch for my back, I normally sleep on a very firm mattress at home.

    I am thinking of getting an Eldorado in double layer to try, would the lightweight double add significantly to the support or would I be better off with a double layer heavyweight.

    Keeping in mind that weight is not really a consideration for me and I have a Wooki for insulation.

    Any help or ideas much appreciated.


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    How much you weigh? On WB site, they say for the single layer "users above 250 lbs (113 kg) will experience more stretch."

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    I weigh about 200, 6 feet tall.


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    I purchased a XLC single layer and it works just fine but I got in my buddy's lightweight double layer and it was so much more comfortable so I purchased a lightweight double layer.

    I am 5' 6" and 135#.

    Both are great but I really like the the double layer better. HYOH

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    I’m still fairly new to this, but have found that I much prefer less stretch for whatever reason - combined with a wide body, it’s just more comfortable to me. I like to hit that thing and almost bounce rather than feeling like I’m sinking in plastic!

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    I don't particularly like the Lightweight DLs, since they have kind of a weird stretch for me. I love the old 70D Heavyweight DLs, but the Dream-Tex Heavyweight DLs are not too bad. If weight is no issue, I would always go for the Heavyweight DL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hutzelbein View Post
    I don't particularly like the Lightweight DLs, since they have kind of a weird stretch for me. I love the old 70D Heavyweight DLs, but the Dream-Tex Heavyweight DLs are not too bad. If weight is no issue, I would always go for the Heavyweight DL.
    Can you please explain what about the Dream-Tex Heavyweight DLs makes them less desirable than the 70D to you please? Are the Lightweight DLs significantly stiffer than a SL 70D?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MongooseDownUnder View Post
    Currently using a WB XLC single layer Dream Tex.

    I think I have finally got the nice flat level lay however my lower back seems to get a bit sore when laying the hammock for any length of time.

    I am thinking there is a bit too much stretch for my back, I normally sleep on a very firm mattress at home.

    I am thinking of getting an Eldorado in double layer to try, would the lightweight double add significantly to the support or would I be better off with a double layer heavyweight.

    Keeping in mind that weight is not really a consideration for me and I have a Wooki for insulation.

    Any help or ideas much appreciated.


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    Ran into the same problem, I shortened my ridgeline to fix this issue. I came from the double layer heavyweight blackbird lxc, which has a stiffer fabric. So far I’m liking the new single layer hammock. The Eldorado and the Blackbird xlc share the same hammock body. The only difference is the bugnet does not have the shelf on the Eldorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Shackelford View Post
    Can you please explain what about the Dream-Tex Heavyweight DLs makes them less desirable than the 70D to you please? Are the Lightweight DLs significantly stiffer than a SL 70D?
    Sure, the LW DLs have one layer more than the SLs, therefore they have considerably less stretch. I don't get back pain in these, but I don't like them.

    Warbonnet currently offers these fabric combinations (sorted from most stretch to least stretch):

    40D Single Layer
    70D Single Layer

    40D / 15D Lightweight Double Layer
    40D / 20D Lightweight Double Layer

    40D / 40D Heavyweight Double Layer
    70D / 70D Heavyweight Double Layer

    It is difficult to compare stretch, because it not only depends on yarn weight, but also on the weave. A plain fabric stretches more than a ripstop fabric.

    What I can say with absolute certainty is, that the 70D / 70D DL has the least amount of stretch. The 40D / 40D DL also has little stretch, but still noticeably more than the 70D / 70D. My back likes the 70D DLs better than the 40D DLs.

    However, I have to add that I sleep in a hammock every night. 90% of the time I use a 70D HW DL Warbonnet XLC / Eldorado. For a couple of nights, most hammocks with little stretch will do. But after a week, I usually know how they compare to my favorites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mehyatink View Post
    Ran into the same problem, I shortened my ridgeline to fix this issue.
    I would really, really not do this on most hammocks with integrated nets. Obviously it depends on how much you shorten the ridgeline, but a shorter ridgeline creates more sag. However, the net is not cut for more sag. The net will be flexible enough to not tear, but there will be a lot more stress on the zippers, which will create more wear.

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