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    Senior Member Rusty Shackelford's Avatar
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    Guy line fail point?

    I have a 30D silnylon Warbonnet Superfly tarp and at the moment I just have my guy lines and split ridge line lark's headed to the D-Rings on the tarp. I have read in a few places of people adding a fail point that would give before the tarp sustained damage in high wind. Is this always done and what are some good options to use? Are these also added where the ridge line hooks on? they have split rings on there at the moment but they are quite heavy.

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    The split ring on the ridge line is designed to fail long before the tarp itself fails. The split ring will deform (giving you some advanced warning) and ultimately it will fail thus preserving your fabric. This rarely happens since you probably won't deliberately hang in those conditions.
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    I use guylines that will break before tarp is damaged. I do not use ZingIt for guylines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watertooner View Post
    The split ring on the ridge line is designed to fail long before the tarp itself fails. The split ring will deform (giving you some advanced warning) and ultimately it will fail thus preserving your fabric. This rarely happens since you probably won't deliberately hang in those conditions.
    This is what I was hoping to hear, thanks.

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    it's honestly not worth worrying about, my Wilderness Logics Old Man Winter lasted for years, and what took it out was a small branch falling from the tree above.

    I gave up on the whole bungie/shock cord "leader" concept years ago when my stakes kept pulling out in the wind, and what fixed it was bypassing the shock cord to stop the stretching action. course here around Albany everything is sand. I didn't have that trouble in Coxsackie

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    Senior Member WalksIn2Trees's Avatar
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    my most recent custom printed tarp from ugq failed but it wasn't the guy lines or any part attached to the guy lines, it was the fabric itself. it did great all winner under snow load and everything, then one night it rained while I was at work I got back to my campsite and the corner was torn out. I didn't see any evidence of tree branches having fallen, and all of the seams were still intact. I didn't have time to do much more than patch it up, and go back to work and when I came back the patch hadn't held, and the tear had run the whole length of the tarp, and then vertically up from where at met the edge seam of the opposite door to the ridge-line

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    just pointing out that this was the most expensive tarp that I've ever owned and it lasted the shortest span of time, and from all I can tell at nothing at all to do with the guylines

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    Perhaps using some Dutch hardware like the tarp tick attached to zing it? I have a fairly nice tarp that has been fine with this set up.


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    Huh. I've been using Zing-It 1.75 mm for about ten years. I don't use shock cord or anything else on my guylines - just larkshead the Zing-It onto the tarp D-Rings and use a marlin spike hitch on the stake. I've hung in 50 to 60 mph winds and have never had any tarp damage.

    Sometimes, when there's a lot of rain and high winds, I'll wake up every two or three hours and re-stake the tarp.
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    I don't purposely build in fail points on my tarps/lines, either. I use ZingIt guylines larks-headed to tiny Beastee Dee rings with in-line shock cord slack tensioners. (I also use ZingIt ridgelines attached to larger Beastee Dees on either end of the tarps.) I've had my tarps up in some gnarly winds, hail, snow, and the like, and the only things that have ever damaged them were wayward embers and vengeful squirrels. The damage from both were easily fixed in the field with a small patch kit.

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