Winter tarp setup

[Midwest Firecraft]

I own a 11 Superfly that I have used with my Blackbird XLC on a few October BWCA trips. I never could set it up so that the cold 25 mph+ winds didn't come in like a tent can prevent. I have switched to a Ridgerunner hammock for my warm weather trips and am very happy with it, but still use a tent for my October trips. If I bought a wide tarp like the Dutchware wide winter tarp with two internal poles, do you think I could get it low enough to the ground to block the wind, yet have enough room to comfortably wait out a long rainy evening? Would really like to take the Ridgerunner this October, but need to get the tarp figured out. Thanks for any input.

[OneClick]

While the Superfly is nearly a do-it-all tarp for me, I also wanted something to block the wind more. I went with a XL Winter Haven from Simply Light Designs.

I don't have a Ridgerunner but it seems like there would be enough room.



Just be careful not to completely close it up against the ground. I made that mistake once and one time only. Without any air flow it will be a condensation bomb one hour after going to sleep! If we're talking cold temps (under 30° or so)

[FLTurtle]

I think you need the 13' Superfly to get it low enough for the Ridgerunner. Something about the hammock suspension? I don't have a RR, so I don't know the real answer but I always see that if you get the RR, you should pair it with a 13' ridgeline tarp.

[Midwest Firecraft]

[QUOTE Just be careful not to completely close it up against the ground. I made that mistake once and one time only. Without any air flow it will be a condensation bomb one hour after going to sleep! If we're talking cold temps (under 30° or so)[/QUOTE]

Excellent point, my Nammatj Hilleberg tent is like that. Thanks for the pic. With a gathered end hammock you really have a lot of room. I would love to have a chair in mine as well but with the bridge hammock I don't think you would have room, which is what I am really looking for.

[Midwest Firecraft]

I think you need the 13' Superfly to get it low enough for the Ridgerunner. Something about the hammock suspension? I don't have a RR, so I don't know the real answer but I always see that if you get the RR, you should pair it with a 13' ridgeline tarp.

I am tracking with you on the 13' part, but it doesn't have to be a Superfly right? As long as it is a 13' tarp with doors and poles it should work right? Reason I ask is Superfly isn't in stock wear as Dutchware wide winter tarp is.

[FLTurtle]

I am tracking with you on the 13' part, but it doesn't have to be a Superfly right? As long as it is a 13' tarp with doors and poles it should work right? Reason I ask is Superfly isn't in stock wear as Dutchware wide winter tarp is.

I would assume so. It's not like the Superfly is radically different than any other tarp with full size doors. I poked around on the WB site regarding 13' tarps:

The doors on any of our 13′ “Fly” series of tarps will fully close around the suspension triangle of the Ridgerunner.

I guess the suspension triangle extends past the length of the hammock? I know for a gathered end, longer tarp ridgelines mean you have to hang the tarp higher to clear the suspension from the hammock to the tree, otherwise it'll rub.

[cougarmeat]

The only extra “fit” I know about is the panal pulls on the 13ft superfly are positioned to be aligned with the Ridge Runner spreader bars. In addition, the 13 ft Superfly has a small D-Ring positioned a short distance from each end to give the RidgeRunner’s bug net something to clip to.

The balance between airflow stoppage to retain heat and airflow go-age to reduce condenstation is a challenge in the winter. But instead of bringing the tarp to the ground, in the winter, with snow, you can bring the ground to the tarp by making a snow wall. With the snow building material, you can design as much blockage and/or flow you want. If the wind is predominate from one direction, you could make a wall against the brunt of it while keeping the non-windy directions more open.

[Midwest Firecraft]

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Purchased a XL Winter Haven from a forum member after seeing your pic. Thanks to everyone who responded.

[papagreen]

How wide is the XL winter haven from Simply Light Designs?

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[Midwest Firecraft]

It is not in my possession yet, but I believe it is 134 inches wide.