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  1. #31
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    This UQ has many amazing qualities.

    A) The asym is very light due to only putting insulation where you need it, and not where you don't. Compared to a 40 F Hammock Gear Econ full length UQ, this is 100 grams lighter (and my TW is a 10 footer).
    B) Easier to get dialed in than most other underquilts I have tried.
    C) Stays in place better than most other UQ I have tried.
    D) Easier to care for and wash than a down UQ.
    5) Low cost leader for cottage products.
    6) Quickest delivery you can get.
    7) High quality craftsmanship.
    Last edited by Loonatic; 04-11-2020 at 10:28.

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    Preach the word!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortRound View Post
    Preach the word!
    Amen!

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    I have the 10* version of this UQ (or is it technically a UQP?), and I just love it. Adjustment has been pretty minimal for me, since my hammock is an SLD Trail Lair (I assume that’s more or less what Jared was using as the model hammock when he designed the Trail Winder), but I did find that cinching in the side elastics has helped keep it good and tight. Now I just need to make sure I don’t sit in just the UQ some night — in retrospect, perhaps getting it in the same color as my hammock wasn’t my best ever idea, though I really do like that shade of blue :-).


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    Quote Originally Posted by michigandave View Post
    Amen!
    Happy 2020 MI Dave! Stay safe out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raladd View Post
    I have the 10* version of this UQ (or is it technically a UQP?), and I just love it. Adjustment has been pretty minimal for me, since my hammock is an SLD Trail Lair (I assume that’s more or less what Jared was using as the model hammock when he designed the Trail Winder), but I did find that cinching in the side elastics has helped keep it good and tight. Now I just need to make sure I don’t sit in just the UQ some night — in retrospect, perhaps getting it in the same color as my hammock wasn’t my best ever idea, though I really do like that shade of blue :-).

    Yeah i got the most obnoxious contrasting colors to insure that never happens hahahahaha!

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    Recently got an asymmetric APEX 6.0 (20 degree) Trail Winder in Moroccan blue. Quite a nice looking UQ and UQP. Fit my Darien like a glove. It got down to 38-40 and I was plenty warm. It was also quite windy to the point that I deployed the tarp although the sky was crystal clear.

    Super comfortable and MUCH less fiddling than my other more typically designed UQs. I’m a big fan and will be ordering a 40 degree for my other family hammock in the spring.

    Nice lines on this for sure.


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    Does anyone have much experience with stacking a Trail Winder yet? I have a partial length CDT UQ and I’m thinking about getting a 40* Trail Winder to stack during winter. I’d like to have the Trail Winder on the outside for it’s UQP properties but I haven’t seen reports yet of how well this works over a down UQ.

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    I think it would work well. The inside is essentially like a gathered hammock on the inside. The insulation hangs on the outside of the ‘shiny’ fabric which faces the hammock. It makes it easy to adjust because you just tighten it up still get loft on the outside. My other UQ requires an easy touch on the adjustments to ensure that I am not mashing the insulation. Not so with this one, in fact, you are probably better off erring on the sid e of making it tighter rather than looser.

    I think if you are going to put an UQ inside of it however, you would obviously need to take that into consideration, but it should be a simple matter of adjusting the mini biners tension on the ends and then fine tuning by adjusting the centers.

    You’ve got me curious now, I will try stacking mine this week when its not raining,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty2192 View Post
    Does anyone have much experience with stacking a Trail Winder yet? I have a partial length CDT UQ and I’m thinking about getting a 40* Trail Winder to stack during winter. I’d like to have the Trail Winder on the outside for it’s UQP properties but I haven’t seen reports yet of how well this works over a down UQ.
    I use a 20 degree symmetrical trail winder all winter. When it gets to about 40 I stack a 40degree asym trail winder loosely over it. Don’t know how low it would go, but I’ve been to 30 with it and was toasty. I sleep cool so I go overboard with bottom insulation. Anyways it works like a champ


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