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    I add my request for a UL dedicated forum. It's a complex and all-encompassing topic. It would be much easier than hoping to find the rogue post that might make mention to it.

    Why not run a month long test and see what level of activity it attracts. Seems the technology is there, since the donating forum was recently opened for a month. If someone thinks it's unnecessary or redundant, they can choose to not visit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikekiM View Post
    I add my request for a UL dedicated forum. It's a complex and all-encompassing topic. It would be much easier than hoping to find the rogue post that might make mention to it.

    Why not run a month long test and see what level of activity it attracts. Seems the technology is there, since the donating forum was recently opened for a month. If someone thinks it's unnecessary or redundant, they can choose to not visit.
    Now that right there is a novel concept!
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    So who is going to determine what is ultralight? People have different perceptions on how/what ultralight is and how it relates to them.

    I have a feeling that people won't follow the guidelines and the thread would still turn into a mix of information. The current thread category system works fine to me and I think the mods have enough to do as it is than to monitor another thread to help keep it relevant to "ultralight"...

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    Couldn’t we argue that the long distance camping sub forum is kind of that?

    Or perhaps maybe alter its description to include these kinds of discussions?

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    Personally, I don't really care if there is an ultralight sub-forum. But if it would stand to benefit a number of forum members, I don't see any issue with it. This type of subforum exists on other outlets like Reddit already; and I don't really see much misuse of it- in terms of inappropriate information or gear. Most folks who ascribe to the ultralight mentality already know there is some variation in what is defined as "UL." For those who don't think there is any benefit or purpose for a UL subforum, then you don't have to visit it. That's just my $.02.

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    Let me see if I can clarify UL a bit.

    If you are discussing your hammock, tarp, quilts, or even ridge bags (think things directly related to your hammock) talking UL is perfectly fine in the public area of the forums.

    Where posts run into issues is when the thread is general in nature or it turns into things like UL cooking gear, water gear, hiking gear, backpacks, etc etc. These items will get moved to the Donating Member area. The mods try to post a warning when the thread is headed down the "rabbit hole" of non hammock gear but sometimes it is too far along or the thread was opened looking for feedback on non hammock related gear.

    There are a number of placed in the DM area where UL gear can be discussed to your hearts content. Think water, food, cooking, even the off topic area could be used if you want something more general.

    There are a number of places in the open forum area where hammock related UL gear can be discuss. Think UQ, Weather protection (tarps), TQ, or general for hammocks.

    So far, I am not seeing the need for a specific UL gear area.
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    I'm not all rip-roarin' fired up about this, but it seems to annoy some people whenever UL alternatives are mentioned.

    There are quite a few threads with titles that start with "Trying to lighten my......" and those threads tend to branch out quickly into other areas because lightening one's pack isn't about any one piece of gear but a systematic approach to reducing everything in the pack, and even the pack itself, and expanding skill set, knowledge base and experience to learn to do more with less stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    I'm not all rip-roarin' fired up about this, but it seems to annoy some people whenever UL alternatives are mentioned.

    There are quite a few threads with titles that start with "Trying to lighten my......" and those threads tend to branch out quickly into other areas because lightening one's pack isn't about any one piece of gear but a systematic approach to reducing everything in the pack, and even the pack itself, and expanding skill set, knowledge base and experience to learn to do more with less stuff.
    You are correct and threads like you indicated normally do get moved to DM or a mod puts a note in it to stay on the topic of hammocks not misc. camping gear.
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    I’m going to try one more time to put this on the track I had in mind. It is NOT an issue of Moderators determining if the post should be relegated to an UL forum. It’s up to the poster to participate wherever they want. And yes, there are already sub-forums for all types of gear. BUT for those interested in UL concepts, they have to sleuth through those various forums to find UL information.

    A UL sub-forum
    1) doesn’t take anything away from what is already there.
    2) doesn’t required the moderators judge if a post qualifies; they are not the ones to decide what is a (pro or con) UL post. Mentioning a non-UL product can point out it’s robustness advantage.
    3) gives those who have a keen interest in UL topics a place to discuss without seeking that information in many other forums.

    If you are not a UL’er, I can understand a “what’s the point” view. It’s sort of like when my father and I once discussed certain medicinal plants that he was sure should be illegal. I suggested that, considering all the health issues, cigarettes should be made illegal too. Of course, as a smoker, he was against that. I said, “So as long as YOUR drug of chose is legal, you are fine with status quo.”

    Sure there are forums for hammocks, tarps, and all the other gear. But it just seems to me that UL issues/gear come up often and it might be nice if those who have that focus had their own - if they chose to post there - an area that would allow a little broader discussion should a thread trend that way. It DOESN”T MEAN that they have to post there or that moderators have to decide to move posts there just because the post is UL in scope.

    Okay - maybe this will help - everything in the “woman’s area” could be covered in forums that already exist. But it’s nice that there is a place where they can “discuss among themselves”. I’m just suggesting that those who have a keen interest in UL have the same option.

    Let’s see - is there an emoji for a mic drop?
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    I vote for a dedicated subforum for UL. There will be enough participation to show its worth.

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