Originally Posted by MikekiM
The lighter and simpler side... UCR's, single length of amsteel on a turtle-tie...
The lighter and simpler side... UCR's, single length of amsteel on a turtle-tie...
Two 12' Kevlar 1.9 straps weigh about 55g, occupy about 120cc.
If you're looking for lightest, least bulky.
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You could probably come up with lighter, but I don't know about bulk. The kevlar comes in at 2.29g/ft vs. 1.4g/ft on 7/64" amsteel. Split the distances (6x6) and that would save almost 11g (20%). Throw in a set of turtle-ties for adjustability and you're still saving about 6g.
How do you attach/adjust the kevlar straps to your CL?
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Hadn't seen the Turtle Ties before. Pretty cool. Doubt I'll switch anything at this point, but pretty cool (not $8 each cool).
The lighter and simpler side... UCR's, single length of amsteel on a turtle-tie...
Attach to tree with slipped buntline hitch or simply thread thru the loops, attach to CL with Lapp Hitch.You could probably come up with lighter, but I don't know about bulk. The kevlar comes in at 2.29g/ft vs. 1.4g/ft on 7/64" amsteel. Split the distances (6x6) and that would save almost 11g (20%). Throw in a set of turtle-ties for adjustability and you're still saving about 6g.
How do you attach/adjust the kevlar straps to your CL?
[Fun playing with numbers
For me it's all about simplicity—no hardware and and fewest moving parts—and it can't get any simpler than this.
I've set up the hammock enough now to have a very good feel for initial height and strap attachment. Sometimes a couple of tiny tweaks—maybe a quick re-tie or raise the foot end strap on the tree—and it's perfect. Lapp and Buntline release with simple tugs.
Five Basic Principles of Going Lighter (not me... the great Cam Honan of OZ)
“If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking.” ~ Gen. George S Patton
How about one two 1.9 kevlar straps.. one ten footer and one twelve. There. I've made it lighter AND less bulk.
Becket to the CL. Done.
Truth told, can't ever remember a time I used all twelve feet of any strap I was carrying. Not to say it can't happen, but here in the NE, trees are plentiful and rarely large enough to eat up that much strap.
I think there is a case to made for 'practice makes perfect' rather than carry more bits and bobs so you can adjust things after the fact. I don't get it right out of the gate every time, but rarely do I need to retie the becket more than once or twice. I'm ok with that.
Now, put it up and take it down.... Do it again.. Do it!!
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Yes, my pack weighs 70lbs, but it's all light weight gear....
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The more I read the more of a neophyte I realize I still am. Most of this is greek to me. The hammock just arrived and I have a couple 12 ft straps and whoopies I'm not using right now so will start there tomorrow. Will try playing around with other setups as I feel more adventurous, but sadly my knot making skills are weak.
Dynaweave straps, Warbonnet fish hooks, and a becket hitch is about as light and slim as you're going to get. You can even do without the fish hooks if you wanted to but they're practically weightless and really handy.
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Agreed!
All of my gathered end hammocks have continuous loops larks-headed to the ends. The loops can hang directly from a marlin-spike hitch on a tree strap, a whoopie hook, a Dutch Biner and climbing carabiner ect.
Good Luck
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